Feds uncover admissions test cheating plot

Everything about this fraud is outrageous. From fake tests, photoshops and bribes. That’s why the accused are all standing in front of a federal judge. It’s criminal not just outrageous.

But also a bit outrageous, is to how we are using the crimes as a hammer. A tool to pore over every part of the admissions process we personally resent.

And for me, this systemic resentment usually stems from the belief or illusion, that I or someone I love, was personally victimized by said inequity.

Or I can spend the same amount of time and energy defending a proposed inequity that may have, inversely, helped me.

Please don’t get me wrong. I am not devaluing anyone’s personal opinions on these matters.

It’s just think one’s unhappiness with the current system (including me because I too would like to see some things looked at) has little relevance to the crimes and fraud at hand.

It would appear upon reflection, a bit of conflation for convenience sake.

https://www.almanacnews.com/news/2014/06/02/thursday-135-to-graduate-from-menlo-school indicates that a John Benedict Wilson, Jr. and a John Daniel Wilson graduated from Menlo School in 2014.

https://paloaltoonline.com/news/2014/05/20/menlo-seniors-set-to-continue-sports-careers-in-college says that “Menlo’s boys’ water polo senior co-captains are set to play in college – Ryan Hammarskjold to Princeton and goalie John D. Wilson to Johns Hopkins.”

[url=http://www.maxpreps.com/high-schools/menlo-school-knights-(atherton,ca)/water-polo/all_time_roster.htm]http://www.maxpreps.com/high-schools/menlo-school-knights-(atherton,ca)/water-polo/all_time_roster.htm[/url] lists the 2013 Menlo School boys water polo roster with both Wilson, Johnny and Wilson, John.

I hope that these clowns spend more on the best attorneys money can buy, and still get hammered. I doubt they will do time (though Martha Stewart did) but it should cost them $$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

I work with a guy named Tom Brady. Need to have HR take another look at his resume.

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It’s WAY too early to be looking at his children, but maybe a few years down the road when college app time comes. With the whole Deflategate and all. Once a cheater, always a… =))

This.^^^ Yes, this has been a “hammer thread” throughout. hmmmm…hammer thread and toppy top - those are the best things to come out of this thread!

@Sushritto. Please don’t make this thread head back down “sour grapes” Avenue. We fully explored both the definition and meaning of that colloquialism.

@CADREAMIN

“Toppy top” is now a “go to” for me!

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My husband shares the name of a Red Sox player. We got a free drink at a local bar during the 7th game of the World Series because of that connection! :slight_smile:

Any relation to Rocky Top? :))

I thought it was “Tippy Top.” Maybe if I’d gone to one I would know.

Read post #1523 from @mdphd92

It lays it out beautifully!!

"Here is an interesting subplot I have just unearthed about John B. Wilson’s son named Johnny Wilson. He indeed did play water polo at Menlo School, Atherton, CA, but it turns out there was another water polo player at that same high school named John D. Wilson, who was a goalie. Both were seniors in the 2013-2014 season, as shown here:

Link to maxpreps.com

Now John D. Wilson was an extremely talented goalie, who was selected to second team, all-conference (in one of the strongest water polo conferences in the nation), as shown here:

http://www.waterpoloplanet.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=10295

John D. Wilson ended up being recruited by and playing for Johns Hopkins, while Johnny Wilson ended up going to USC, where his name is listed on the roster for his freshman year as a driver (in other words, he was not a goalie):

https://usctrojans.com/roster.aspx?roster=173
https://usctrojans.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=4711

The problem is that his bio for the team is patently false because it appropriates the accomplishments of the other Wilson kid. His bio says that he “was an all-league first team senior out of Menlo School in Atherton, Calif… Also named to the 2013 All-Central Coast Section Division II second team… As a junior, earned All-Daily News and All-CCS honorable mention.” But these were all honors given to John D. Wilson and not Johnny Wilson. The USC coach simply exploited the name similarity to falsify a bio for Johnny Wilson.

Now, Johnny Wilson certainly had to have looked up his own bio on the USC water polo team, and he must have not taken the trouble to have his record corrected, so he appears to be complicit in this scheme."

@Nrdsb4

Some of us have suggested that term you reference sounds elitist and grating.

“Toppy top” was born on this thread. Perhaps by mistake. But a good one. Like the time when my mom left some Hawaiian Punch out in the snow and popsicles here born.

(Yes that is not true but I like popsicles :). )

^ wow. These people really suck! I think that’s why this scandal is so compelling - lots of bad guys. Does anyone involved come across as remotely sympathetic?

I usually do a better job of keeping up with the content on any thread that interests me, but this thread is just impossible. For me, anyway.

@Nrdsb4 It swirls and roars. With a lot of excess wind. It’s thread-nado.

Here is a perspective from Canada’s CBC:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/us-college-scam-court-cheating-myth-meritocracy-1.5055854

I always thought I came up with the idea of looking at majors instead of institutions, but now I know most Canadians do exactly the same. Interesting.

I believe the NY Magazine article linked in #3000 stated that Jane Buckingham’s child didn’t know about the bribery (I’ve reached my article limit and can’t go back to double check). He was the one who took the ACT in his bedroom and his mom thought that doing that would be enough to convince him that the results garnered by the guy they bribed were really his results. He’s got to be pretty dim if he thinks an ACT taken in the comfort of his own bedroom is a valid test.

Just found this article, which suggests all of the ways in which earlier elites molded college admissions requirements to admit their sons: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/03/admissions-scandal-a-professor-on-our-meritocratic-myth.html?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Intelligencer%20-%20March%2019%2C%202019&utm_term=Subscription%20List%20-%20Daily%20Intelligencer%20%281%20Year%29.

The SATs were originally introduced because HYP thought Jews were not as intelligent and so they could keep them out – unlike Columbia that they felt was being overrun. That didn’t work for them and then they had to go to a quota system as Jews had superior performance on the SATs and then to geographical distribution requirements, athletic and extracurricular achievements and legacy tips.

The author’s argument is that the problem here is that these were nouveau riche, who chose to violate the law, rather than just molding the evolving admissions requirements to their needs. His argument is that standardized tests are excellent predictors of a family’s wealth but not of grades and that’s part of why they have lasted even though they didn’t keep out Jews.