Fastest take-off I’ve ever seen on a CC thread.
Toppy top was my fat finger error on the cell. And our buddy privatebanker recognized we needed a moment of levity. 
It does work. And it’ll be our own private joke, only known initially to people on this thread. That’s fun.
No scam, no mail fraud, no high priced lawyers.
Tippy toppy? An extra tip to the tippy top.
Impressive time! Will the real John Wilson please stand up?
:-/
Again, the H issue with excluding one religion was nearly 100 years ago, lots changed in the interim.
Not to mention that religion- and Harvard’s current practices- are NOT the subject of this thread. Just saying.
I stand by my opinion that you invented it on purpose. And you will forever receive full attribution amongst us “thread-nado-ers”!
And then you have to wonder if Menlo School knew about this? They announce all of their “signing” athletes, or who is continuing to play in college…they must have wondered how the less talented John Wilson was going to the NCAA championship team, right? And the USC assistant coaches who were paid by Key had to know this kid was on the roster with a false identity, as one of the assistants was in charge of recruiting. There is no way they all didn’t know, including the high school. It’s just too small of a circle that the water polo community in that area involves. And Menlo School has a small graduating class where everyone knows each other’s business.
Forget John Wilson. More like recruiting Michael Phelps
This may have been posted already but lays out which kids knew, didn’t know and probably should have known about the cheating: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/03/college-admissions-scandal-what-every-kid-knew.html?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Intelligencer%20-%20March%2019%2C%202019&utm_term=Subscription%20List%20-%20Daily%20Intelligencer%20%281%20Year%29
From some Web searching, the coach for Menlo School water polo is in his 18th season and was a former All-American and Academic All-American at Stanford, and the alternate goalie for the 1996 Olympic Team. He teaches philosophy at the school, serves as the College Athletics counselor, and has published several articles on sports ethics.
If he did know and didn’t report it, that would seem to be an ethical issue. He might have assumed that Johnny Wilson just bought his way into USC the legal way.
https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/sidoo-sons-grew-up-with-many-advantages-made-most-of-many-opportunities says that David Sidoo allegedly paid for others to take the SAT for both of his sons (at the time, it was the version with 2400 as the highest score).
There is also the odd circumstance of the father allegedly paying for someone to take a "Canadian high school graduation exam” for the older son, according to https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/unclear-how-impostor-allegedly-wrote-b-c-exam-for-david-sidoos-son .
And on the topic of USC water polo, the former coach Jovan Vavic apparently used to run a water polo camp, listed under the Web page http://www.jovanvavicwaterpolocamp.com. The Web page now states that “due to the recent situation with regards to USC and Jovan Vavic, the Jovan Vavic Water Polo Camp will now be run by Marko Pintaric, Head USC Men’s Water Polo Coach at USC.”
Vavic was a major figure in the sport. As one article put it, “Vavic was named Pac-12 Men’s Water Polo Coach of the Century. … He’s the John Wooden of water polo.”
They rightly tore down Paterno’s statue after a few weeks. And out of the Brown Hall of Fame shortly after.
Vavic’s pictures and trophies were gone by the next morning.
@lookingforward @privatebanker Toppy top, hammer thread and clam fart. insta-classics.
@mdphd92 Do you think they’ll rename the camp? Do you think Jovan will still get some royalties for using his name?How is Marko running this when he is likely one of the assistants that was on the Key payroll? No way he didn’t know what was going on with Jovan…
It looks like they’ve already renamed it. The old Web page and the related page http://jvwpc.com now link directly to http://scwaterpolocamp.com and that page calls it the “SC Water Polo Camp”. The assistants might have suspected something was going on, but unless they were also taking bribes, I don’t think they can lose their positions.
What the students knew in #3047 - a number of students were cc’ed in the emails about the plans to falsify admissions info and sketchy test retakes.
It’s quite “impressive” though that between the parents, teachers and coaches involved, the scandal seems to have caught up representatives across a multitude of ethnicities and religions. No discrimination here as long as the money is the right color.
How sad that someone as smart as Mark Riddell who could get any score on the SAT chose to do that with his intelligence. Too bad there is no college admission test that measures character.
"And then you have to wonder if Menlo School knew about this? They announce all of their “signing” athletes, or who is continuing to play in college…they must have wondered how the less talented John Wilson was going to the NCAA championship team, right? And the USC assistant coaches who were paid by Key had to know this kid was on the roster with a false identity, as one of the assistants was in charge of recruiting. There is no way they all didn’t know, including the high school. It’s just too small of a circle that the water polo community in that area involves. And Menlo School has a small graduating class where everyone knows each other’s business. "
Yes and no. This is exactly the sort of logical analysis that “holistic” admissions is designed to prevent. Holistic is a black box that creates plausible deniability and doubt. Holistic allows the colleges to make whatever admissions choices they desire - ethical, illegal and the whole range - with no outside examination possible. The 1200 SAT kid is admitted to Harvard? The condescending reply is that since you didn’t see the entire application, you have no way to know what reach, stretch, depth, breadth, je ne sais quoi this applicant demonstrated that the others simply did not. And there’s no way to disagree with that… because that precisely how the system is designed.
Of course every year there are kids who are rather unimpressive yet who are admitted to very competitive colleges. There really is no way to know if the college just saw a special spark in this kid that nobody else saw or if there was a behind the scenes helping hand. And again, that’s what holistic admissions does well - allow colleges to make their own selections without outside oversight or comment. In some cases, that means wonderful kids with awesome potential unknown to most others at their HS gets lucky and in some cases that means a mediocre kid who has some other desired trait gets lucky - there is no way to know or politely inquire. So did the school wonder what was going on here? Probably. But that’s not really different than what happens every year with the holistic process.
Not sure if this has been posted here before. The article discusses unfair treatment in internship funding and career advancement favoring relatives of donors and senior administrators, etc., at UChicago.
https://projects.chicagomaroon.com/article/2019/career-advancement-leak/
This is not a dig at Chicago (probably happens in many places) but is just to highlight how much privilege is entrenched in every part of the system in so many different ways, and how much corruption and self-interest exists at these institutions, whether officially sanctioned or not. The person in this office was just dumb enough to put it in writing.
In this case, the official response seems quite non-responsive though.