Feds uncover admissions test cheating plot

@goodjob I assume that you heard about the passenger who attempted to board an airplane with her emotional support ostrich! She was denied boarding and then had a meltdown in the terminal.

@calmom I’m guessing that the FBI doesn’t reveal too much during its investigation, but when the FBI asks you do to something, you have to suspect there is some wrongdoing going on. But like you, I’m curious to know at what point the SAT and ACT people were clued in. Perhaps the SAT people knowingly allowed Riddell to proctor certain tests, just so they could catch certain perpetrators.

Apparently Olivia Jade was spending spring break on a yacht in the Bahamas owned by the chairman of the board of trustees of USC (according to TMZ, depending on how believable you find them) - https://www.tmz.com/2019/03/13/lori-loughlin-daughter-olivia-yacht-usc-board-of-trustees-rick-caruso/?fbclid=IwAR00Aj8aczS0Nn3g6hAUWU3BEUTCuSCLxdMLXV7XqEZ-2pbgGlGnlHDLd7Q

@houndmom The Laughlin daughters should be required to help carry the boats from the boathouse to the water.

Another thing I would like to know is how Olivia Jade’s meeting with “her deans” went when she told them she didn’t know how much school she could attend.

And I would like to know how much Olivia Jade paid for someone to do all her college homework. She certainly wasn’t doing that on her own.

On a Yacht with CHAIRMAN of Board of Trustees??? This is not one bad actor, one coach, this is imbedded lack of integrity, this is a culture.

Such a bad look for USC. I wonder if it will effect yield? And will USC delay decisions so they can avoid making some disastrous admissions decisions?

Extra time wasn’t the issue. Getting someone else to take the exam or correct it before submission was. How does eliminating extra time solve those types of cheating?

From the article it sounds like the chairman himself wasn’t on the boat. Olivia Jade is friends with his daughter. So still dodgy but not quite as dodgy as it would sound otherwise.

Being a contrarian, I would say that applying to USC for the class of 2020 is a shrewd move, just as applying to Duke after the lacrosse scandal was a shrewd move. Stories like this may cause short-term reputational damage, depressing number of applicants for a year, but rarely long term damage.

“On a Yacht with CHAIRMAN of Board of Trustees??? This is not one bad actor, one coach, this is imbedded lack of integrity, this is a culture.”

This is not a dodgy incident. The Chairman, Rick Caruso, is the father of an 18y/o girl; she and Olivia Jade went to the same HS and were friends classmates. Caruso is very wealthy - for example, he owns The Grove, and Calabasas shopping malls and I think, but am not certain, that Caruso’s daughter attends USC as well. Furthermore, Caruso is very philanthropic, and, several years ago he donated over $20m to fund a center to aid children who are deaf or hard of hearing (his youngest is deaf). So, if he has a yacht, and splashes his cash - who cares?

So it looks like USC is trying to regain its nickname “University of Spoiled Children”.

@hebegebe well if that’s true than USC is going to have a terrible year after all they have had a major issue this year but for some reason I don’t see it in the news as much as Michigan state had to go through last year (doctor abusing students)

If a few very wealthy people don’t contribute to universities who will pay for the high cost of running the school? Many of the best schools now offer a full ride (which does not need to be paid back) to almost half of their students. If this type of income is blocked then the only alternative will be for the schools to raise tuition. Who will be hurt the most - not the lower class: they will attend for free - not the upper class: they can afford it - but the middle class. The answer is not to stop legitimate donations even if it is in return for allowing the children of the donors to attend the school - so long as they are qualified.

Olivia Jade was on the yacht with the daughter of the chairman along with a group of friends.

I would not read too much into that, the chairman is Rick Caruso who is a very wealthy businessman who owns The Grove in Los Angeles. It should not be surprising that Jade is friends with Caruso daughter considering they are all wealthy and travel in the same circles. Just a little embarrassing for Caruso and indicates that the Board likely had no idea that the indictments were coming.

USC just had the obgyn scandal if you recall. Some thought that would cause apps to drop - being a shrewd move to apply…and then this hits. Is it temporary and limited or systemic?

At these super-selective schools, the full FA range roughly corresponds to the Pell grant range (bottom 50% income) which typically provides 10-20% of the students at these schools. About half of students get FA (which at Harvard can go up to about $250k income), but not necessarily full FA.

One development admit with a $5 million donation could fund FA for about 19 full FA students. But, if the claim that 5% of undergraduates are development admits is to be believed, the ratio is more like one development admit to two to four full FA students or about ten FA (not necessarily full FA) students.

So if the ultra rich don’t donate the amount of pell grant recipients goes down and then the rich are the bad people again. Im not saying the rich are not wrong in this but you can’t have it both ways. It is sad that people give to their favorite schools hoping their kids get in but we all give to the local police and put stickers on our cars hoping if we get pulled over it will help our case.

Let’s go back on track! This is not about rich donating… athletes getting special treatment

This is about cheating the system by fraud!

Let me get this straight…Olivia Jade (pseudo-celebrity) is the daughter or a very wealthy celebrity couple, who also happens to be best friends with the daughter of the chairman of the board of USC, and her parents still felt the need to bribe her way in? Those test scores must have been really bad.