Feds uncover admissions test cheating plot

USC has had a series of scandals. There was the head of the school of medicine who took illegal drugs with hookers and had one die in his hotel room. There was a cover up.

Not to mention it is in a bad neighborhood. A student was shot and killed near there this week. Ugly campus, no grounds.

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@chipperd

Do you realize how much a donor pays in a development case? We are talking upwards of $20 million. If a coach got 500k, do you really believe a portion of this is enough to move the needle at admissions lol? In addition, admissions isn’t one person. It’s a committe. So you would have to have several admission officers look the other way. What you are saying isn’t realistic and just lacks knowledge of the admissions process.

@sable999 I have been wondering the same thing.

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@LisaNCState

lol. You really believe Admission officers know these coaches are receiving money? If this is the case why share the money with the coaches? They can admit whomever they want.

I actually feel kind of bad for some of these kids ,unless it is proven they were all in on this fraud. The adults seemed to be the main drivers in this for the most part. Can you imagine your kids being thrown out of a college they have settled into, being ridiculed and ostracized because of something their parents did? The parents sound clueless and susceptible to scam artists that want their money. I think these celebrities love their kids, just like all of us. They have compromised their credibility and trust by going way overboard and crossing a line into fraud. Very sad for all involved .

That indeed would be ridiculous if it were true. It is not true.

If you were more knowledgeable, you would know that autism often co-occurs with conditions that do merit extra time, conditions such as dysgraphia, dyslexia and others.

I agree that this scandal is about cheating the system by fraud. People are really missing that and blaming extra time , legitimate donations. These people abused the current system. They cheated. Everyone is trying to game the system for their kids. Under a lot of pressure the schools are trying to level the playing field with a lot of competing interests. I actually think they are doing a pretty good job of threading the needle. It is a delicate balance.

^ I think this scandal is about colleges are enabling cheating.

Parents clueless to scam artists? The parents are criminals! The children should be expelled, whether they knew it (my vote) or not. Does not matter. And admission officers HATE having to give priority to athletes and legacies and rich donors. They’d love to admit classes based on merit and diversity (geographic, ethnic, etc) and kids who would be good fits.

Sevmom - Sadly, I think you may be giving some of these kids too much credit. These are children who have been raised in an atmosphere of entitlement their whole lives. That often does not bode well for their moral compass. See the First Family as example #1.

“Some people are born on third base and think they hit a triple.” (Attributed to Barry Switzer (disputed))

@4kids4us

https://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/01/health/more-diagnoses-of-hyperactivity-causing-concern.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/07/education/edlife/07strategy-t.html

Clearly, the percent of children who are legally blind or have the permanent loss of use of one or more hands will be far smaller than those numbers.

An interesting piece from the Athletic on USC.

USC confirms its country club status “in the worst way” in playing victim in admissions scandal

From The Athletic … If​ sports are considered​ the “front​ porch” to a university, USC’s​ has broken glass​ in​ the windows, gaping​ holes where​ there​​ should be stairs … and a raging fire rapidly incinerating the whole thing.
On Tuesday, three Olympic-sport coaches and a senior administrator at USC were part of an explosive national college admissions scandal in which parents paid expensive bribes to get their kids admitted to prestigious universities. Many other coaches and schools were implicated, including crosstown rival UCLA, but none with the same scope of involvement as that of USC.
It’s just the latest black eye for an athletic department that’s been attempting to set a world record for them over the past decade or so. And they’ve got to stop. USC means too much to its loyal alumni, the Pac-12 and the city of Los Angeles to be such a chronic source of shame and embarrassment.
In the university’s characteristically arrogant fashion, its interim president, Wanda M. Austin, had the temerity to write a letter Tuesday stating “USC is a victim” (underline theirs) in a scheme that happened to involve its second highest-ranking athletics employee and a 16-time national championship coach. The school has quite a bit of experience lately in this crisis management bit; less than 18 months ago, ex-basketball assistant Tony Bland got caught in his own bribery sting, this one the FBI’s running investigation into college hoops pay-for-play schemes. (Bland pleaded guilty earlier this year.).

https://theathletic.com/864909/2019/03/12/usc-fbi-bribery-scandal-college-admissions/

@965

Well, no, the Americans are the Masters, to get away with it for so much longer.

You guys are having too much fun on this thread. I thought for sure this thread would be on the Parent Forum. I have been missing out. 77 pages. Wow

Note above, Students with learning disabilities OR ADHD

@roethlisburger But what you said earlier was

Your quote from the NYT is not exactly the same thing. It does not say the number one reason is ADD/ADHD. I’d be curious to know how many get accommodations for ADD/ADHD versus how many get them for other documented LDs such as dyslexia, dysgraphia, etc.

Agree @oldfort , surprised it is not on the Parent Forum or Parent Cafe. Maybe it can get moved?

@LisaNCState do you believe your children are matriculating at a place equal to their academic footing?

@sevmom – there were a couple of threads on the Parents Forum but mods moved them here.

“I have covered college sports more or less my entire career. but I never thought I’d live long enough to see a recruiting scandal that involved the admission of athletes who couldn’t play.”

Why would this be so surprising in an environment where athletes who are functionally illiterate are admitted to college regularly? Athletics has nothing to do with college and faking a student is an athlete has the same impact on the academic environment, academic achievements and academic cred of a university as admitting athletes who can barely read.

Instead of trying to verify who is an athlete and ignoring if the athletes are at the same academic level as the rest of the students, it’s time to get rid of athletic preferences and the whole dirty money making machine that accompanies all of it.

1141 - not to mention this scandal at USC:

https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-usc-settlement-proposal-20181019-story.html