They also need to show these people that they are targeting their pictures. It’s one thing to list the names that are easily forgotten but to post your pictures for everyone to see is another thing. I also want to see the list printed if the other like 800 families on the list. Let these people lose their jobs, be kicked off of boards, kick out of school and be shamed in public. Anyone got tar and feathers?
But I do think this shake up is good overall.
Ohio mom (Kelley Williams-Bolar) got 3 years and ordered to pay $30K for sending her kids to the school district they don’t live in.
I wish all these 750 families will get at least a minimum of 3 years.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/ohio-mom-jailed-sending-kids-school-district/story?id=12763654
“Senator Wyden will introduce a bill to eliminate the tax break for donating to colleges before or during the admissions process for a child.”
Some of the biggest beneficiaries of “special admissions” are the children of prominent politicians, and unlike development cases, they don’t even have to donate any money to get their kids in. An individual in my kid’s class from a prominent political family was admitted ED to an Ivy League school this cycle. To say that he/she has no business getting into an Ivy League school would be an understatement. People were genuinely stunned. They probably shouldn’t have been
@LisaNCState this happens in Chicago also due to our selective enrollment process that I outlined. Using fake addresses etc. We have been having Crack downs the last few years.
@shawbridge said, “So, I wonder if a better response is that private psychologists testing needs to be verified behaviorally by the teachers.”
This would have been a problem for one of my Ds who has ADD. Grades were good, tested well, but she was ALL over the place out of school. Finally had her tested junior year. We never asked for accommodations for her though.
Yes, there is a prominent political family whose members don’t seem very bright at all who routinely get into the Ivies. One later had a lot of difficulty passing the bar exam.
A few years ago there was a scandal at the UIUC School of Law over admissions. The admissions people were told to hold some seats open for the kids of Chicago area pols.
The admissions process is rigged all around in many different ways. Colleges and universities value money over having an institution known for fostering brilliant minds.
regarding the current admissions process that we are 14 days away from, its my understanding that the IVYS want recruited athletes to apply ED as this is a binding measure. This also has to do with the fact that they do not give out athletic scholarships in the IVY league
Not always.
@TatinG - I have an idea.(crazy albeit) .the way we have a jury system … why not have 12 jurors (picked randomly ) sitting in the adcom room and see how they come to a decision and these jurors need to approve it as well …
Someone very early in this thread asked if accommodations follow the student into college. In many cases, they do, and also offer excellent benefits that the other students don’t receive. My son’s roommate in college had a 504 for extended testing in high school, and had it bumped up to college. He also receives priority registration, which at this impacted public California state university, is like gold! He admits to my son that he doesn’t really need it, and it was forced in high school to take advantage of the system. All of this needs to be revamped as it is just out of control.
@tating a Massachusetts family, perhaps?
Another member of said family attended my alma mater. When a friend was tasked with organizing the theses written for a particular major (the department wanted to have a copy of every thesis written in the department, going back to I believe the early 1980s) this person’s thesis was the only one (out of hundreds, or more) that no one was ever able to locate.
12 jurors at 100s of schools. Nah. It takes days to deliberate a case. And 12 people agreeing or just the majority ? And also what’s their experitse. Are they revisiting the whole file or just listening to closing arguments?
@privatebanker that’s why I said it’s crazy 
however, we hang people based on the jury trial (so many courts around the country) … I assume admission decision is easier than that but I do agree what you saying
Does anyone want to chime in regarding this crazy idea?
First. Calm Down. I have said repeatedly that students who get extra time without a legitimate need ARE getting preferential treatment. That is my point. If you want to remove the preferential treatment, the easiest move would be to remove the time pressure so the vast majority of kids are showing their knowledge, not their speed.
There is also a difference in the real world between time management and timed test pressure. Of course we all have deadlines but generally no one is standing over us with a stop watch. We have leeway to organize our lives so that we get our jobs done. I do a lot of writing for my job. I have to get my work in on time, but no one asks how long it took me.
HYP is not binding. Yes, the coaches want athletes to apply in the early round, but not because it’s binding.
@Northwesty said re Gigi Caruso, the daughter of Rick Caruso, USC’s board chair, who was on Rick’s boat with Lori Laughlin’s daughter when the story broke:
Can’s help but wonder if Gigi had some “help” with her SATs as well.
@ninakatarina I think you are referring to the list I posted. It is post #853 on page 57of this thread. Or you can click on my profile and find the link there.
@hebegebe Not necessary. Dad is chairman of board of trustees. GED and a 800 is enough in that case.
Just kidding everyone.
Gigi and Olivia Jade do not represent the typical student at USC. My D is a freshman there. She says that the number of students like them are so small and they do not interact with the majority of students. They stick to their own small group. My D says, “the majority of people here are nice and hardworking and dont have everything handed to them like that”. Over 60% of students receive some sort of financial aid.
My D knows several people who are on campus this week for spring break because they don’t have the money to fly home. Everyone is not rich and entitled. The vast majority are there on their own merits.
Math fluency is basically a fancy word for speed. He is basically saying that they focus on speed because the test requires speed. The real question is why? Why are they testing for speed in a math competition?
One answer could be – because its cool. Most forms of competition are designed to test the limits of human ability. No one needs to dead lift 1000 pounds or execute a triple sow cow, but its amazing that humans can do this. If people want to test kids on math speed as well as creativity, there is no problem with that for the kids that enjoy it and want to participate. If a college is recruiting for its math team they have every right to demand speed from the players, just as the track coach would.
On the other hand, is speed relevant in the engineering department? Or even in the math department? Or are you really looking for other qualities like creativity, insight, etc. If so then putting in a speed component eliminates kids who might be brilliant candidates. Its like saying we want great math students who can also do a triple sow cow. Why?