<p>No, according to facts. To be killed for robbery, Brown should have been shot before the first struggle.</p>
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<p>Back up was called in. I’d say Brown should have just complied with the orders and get arrested for robbery instead of reaching into the patrol car and try to grab an officer’'s gun.</p>
<p>Off to work but before I go . . . on the timeline the original story was that Wilson did not know that they matched the robbery description and just backed up and pulled along side the pair because they had words back and forth about walking in the street. If Wilson knew that they could be robbery suspects and was as intimidated by Brown as he now claims would he have backed up directly next to them and interacted from his car through a rolled down window? That doesn’t seem like the best way to apprehend a suspect if that’s what he was trying to do.</p>
<p>If it is as you say, following your line of reasoning, Brown was killed for walking on the street. Even more outrage! From what I understand Wilcon noted Brown matched the robbery suspect description. I am guessing at this point that’s all there was; Brown matched the description. How common is that description? Was Brown’s outfit quite unique or just about everyone dresses like that? I don’t know what the police procedure is at this point. Do they try to stall and find reasons to search the suspect? When do they call in for a backup?</p>
<p>Okay, he wasn’t working this case. He had just returned to patrol duty after a sick baby call. The officers who were looking for the suspects had lost them and he communicated by radio that he just spotted them on Canfield and asked for back up to come to his location. They arrived 2or 3 minutes too late. And, he did stay in the SUV because he knew better than to get out of the vehicle and approach these two teenagers alone which in my opinion is a part of this that could spark some enlightening discussion. These cops are not intimidated or scared exactly but they are on guard in these neighborhoods because they have to be if they don’t want to be killed themselves. Perhaps, they shouldn’t ever be on the streets solo but this is a very small police department so now there would only be something like 25 sets of cops in the whole town 24/7.</p>
<p>So he called for a backup when he spotted them and before approachong Brown. I would guess then Wilson was stalling them waiting for the backup. Is that wrong?</p>
<p>If this holds up we need to throw out another inflammatory original story that Wilson did not know that they matched the robbery description and just backed up and pulled along side the pair because they had words back and forth about walking in the street. That would make the third original story to throw out. Along with a story that Wilson shot Brown in the back or that Wilson fired the fatal shot when Brown was already on the ground or that Wilson shot Brown when his hands were raisd and kneeling in surrender. It should be easy to confirm or dis-confirm. They must have a radio record.</p>
<p>“In my opinion, Brown was a giant kid who was used to getting what he wanted through physical force. He probably figured he would win the fight with Wilson like he always won every other fight in his short life. Less than ten minutes before he had slammed a store owner into a potato chip rack like a puppet so let’s not pretend he was a wonderful kid who had never been in trouble in his life.”</p>
<p>That opinion gets my vote for the most poorly thought-out comment of the month. I thought only Mandrake the Magician could read minds well enough to declare that Brown “probably figured” he would win the fight with the cop like he’s won other fights in his life. Just amazing. Kreskin couldn’t perform any better.</p>
<p>I don’t know. Why would you attack anyone and try to grab a gun if you didn’t expect to succeed? You wouldn’t.</p>
<p>A Bosnian immigrant was beaten to death with a hammer by black youths the other night. Other than some in the St. Louis Bosnian community rallying, no one will notice. Since the victim wasn’t robbed, it was likely a pure hate crime. This sort of thing goes on daily and the nation collectively shrugs its shoulders.</p>
<p>Crimes should be prosecuted, of course. I’m not sure who you think is against that. But I think we need to hold our government officers to a higher standard. Maybe you want to equate the actions of police officers to those of street criminals, but I think we should expect more of them. We pay their salaries and expect a fair upholding of the law. They represent us. </p>
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<p>How many cops have been attacked or killed by young men in that neighborhood of Ferguson (in the middle of the day, or ever)?</p>
<p>Tatin, talk about race baiting. Is your point that “black youths are dangerous,” or something else?</p>
<p>The point was that the far more prevalent killings go unnoticed while one gets national attention. If the crime doesn’t fit the media narrative, it doesn’t get much media attention. </p>
<p>Again, don’t you think that killings by government agents would naturally get more media attention (leaving aside the attention getting actions like leaving the body out in the street uncovered for four hours==total media bait.)</p>
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<p>Okay, now what would a higher standard amount to in this case? </p>
<p>Nothing about this case happened naturally. The media was fed a false pre-story by activists who picked the wrong case. That doesn’t mean they don’t have a legitimate concern but I’m not sure this case helps. It may actually hurt. </p>
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<p>Wait, you’re saying that Bosnian immigrants are routinely targeted by black youth, and frequently killed–all for reasons of race? </p>
<p>Sorry but I don’t think this sort of incident even comes close to the number of unarmed young black men killed by cops.</p>
<p>Are you kidding? Everyone agrees that too many young black men are killed by cops but that’s a fraction of the number killed by each other or of others killed in street crime.</p>
<p>Here’s one from last night. Pretty routine stuff, unfortunately.</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/crime/2014/11/30/two-shot-homicide-north-st-louis/19693463/”>http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/crime/2014/11/30/two-shot-homicide-north-st-louis/19693463/</a></p>
<p>Brown/Wilson doesn’t make a case for police brutality. As for police/community conflict, I would think there are many cases much greyer than this case.</p>
<p>In stranger on stranger homicides, black on white murder is far more prevalent than white on black. </p>