Film (watching, not studying) thread

<p>Seems like we really need a film thread to go with our book thread and launch thread. Saves us from high-jacking threads where kids/parents are looking for school advice.</p>

<p>I have been the lamenting the closing of the video stores where you could get old movies as well as the new stuff. I have, however, discovered the library, where we just got and watched The Diving Bell and the Butterfly, a French movie with English subtitiles. Photography was unbelievable. It's the true story of Elle editor Jean-Dominique Bauby who suffers a stroke and has to live with an almost totally paralyzed body; only his left eye isn't paralyzed. Wow, it was SO GOOD!!</p>

<p>Thanks for starting this thread, redbug. We may need to add a disclaimer:</p>

<p>WARNING - This thread may include plot spoilers!</p>

<p>I saw that movie! So incredible! The patience of the author and the scribe must have been amazing. Writing a book by blinking an eye. I think I would have given up, honestly, because I am not a writer like the author. </p>

<p>You know, the subtitles are something you get used to. In fact, friends put them on for English-speaking movies when they are hard to hear or if they have thick accents.</p>

<p>The business model of the video stores is archaic and they just didn't pay attention to trends. I keep saying I will sign up for Netflix online, but haven't yet because I think you just get the movie. I always like to watch "the making of" special features which generally clears out the room, but is an interesting part of the creative process.</p>

<p>so is this now "art in film (or vice versa) thread"?
^ that is directed by cough cough, Julian Schnabel. (had been) the Big time artist!!!
Julian</a> Schnabel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
his first film was "Basquiat"
it is controversial because real Basquiat pretty much made fun of artist-Schnabel while he was alive.
in it, Schnabel staged himself as some artist with other name but all artworks are Schnabel's and I think his loft and his family, kids are in it, too.
even after Basquiat is dead and making movie to honor his life, he was not even allowed to use real Basquiat works' images. had to paint fake ones himself. must have had fun and tasted bit of revenge.</p>

<p>all Basquiat works in it are fake
all Schnabel works are real but the artist-role is a fake.
^ I think it is sort of fitting to the era when they'd became hi-flying art stars only shortly after being nobody-penniless homeless dishwasher or pimp. </p>

<p>casting is amazing, Michael Chow is himself, David Bowie doing Warhol, scary Christopher Walken, William Dafoe, Tatum O'Neal cameo role-ing galore.
plus gallery queens; Anina Nosei and Mary Boone looked real, even better than real themselves.
oh, and the ending is tacky!! it killed it.....
oh but music is another story.
OK
I quit
oh oh
one more thing, there are back and white old animation in it must must see!!!</p>

<p>mom4 you beat me
and I did spoil big time</p>

<p>PS
read the book "The Diving Bell and the Butterfly" before seeing adaptations if you can.
I was made to read it by some film-police friend of mine, and not allowed to see the film until done
and am glad that she did/I did.</p>

<p>We just finished Somewhere directed by Sofia Copppola. Very restrained observation of a Hollywood actor...his emptiness and his disconnect. His 11 year old daughter (Elle Fanning, Dakota's little sister) stays with him for a while. Having been the child of an emotionally repressed father and of divorce as well, it was difficult for me and at one point I got up and shook my fist and cursed at the screen. So I guess it was successful. But I do prefer Coppola's other films: Virgin Suicides, Marie Antoinette and Lost in Translation. She has an insider's eye when it comes to privilege and she knows it isn't always pretty.</p>

<p>I am pretty impressed with Schnabel as a director, more so than as a painter. I'm curious about his latest film, Miral. Has anyone here seen it? I saw him on Bill Mohr and he was much more humble than I imagined him to be.</p>

<p>Redbug...thanks for starting this. I just drafted up a long list of films on Netflix. They now have a watch instantly option that I can stream to my TV through Playstation. Lots of classics. Mom4art...some of the discs that come in the mail have the "making of" and some don't. I love those too. Sometimes more than a movie itself.
I have promised myself that I will make time to watch movies this summer to recuperate from the move, renovation, flood and overwork. This thread will help me stick to it.
We used to go to Blockbusters and Hollywood video but both have closed down. There is an interesting site called MUBI MUBI:</a> your online cinema, anytime, anywhere We haven't joined yet but are tempted. They have a lot of indie, foreign and art house films. There is a forum/community over there as well for any one who is a real film nut.</p>

<p>Recently saw Win Win and Everything Must Go. I recommend both highly!</p>

<p>Great suggestions! I will have to figure out how to find time to see these movies. I used to get the reviews every Friday and kept a list of not-so-mainstream movies to see, but then D1 entered HS and my time seemed to evaporate. And I stopped getting the paper. (Too much guilt over only reading the movie reviews.). Now that D1 is launching, I am hoping for more me time.</p>

<p>Bears, I remember Basquiat coming out. Maybe it was because Benecio del Toro is in it. I always thought he looked like a darker Brad Pitt. And I don't mind if you want this to be the art in film or vice versa thread.</p>

<p>Just watched most of painters on painting. Jasper johns and Rauschenberg were adorable. Rauschenberg is baby Switters big crush so I had to be quiet during those parts.</p>

<p>Loved list in translation. Hated virgin suicides.</p>

<p>I just finished library's Toy Story 3 and cried my eyeballs out
my kid didn't care and we didn't go see it when it came out, thought too predictable.
I happened to know that worried_mom's S2 ASKed her to go with him.
now I know I was jealous...</p>

<p>mom4
Benicio del Toro!!
oh oh see entire "Che" in one sitting (4hours plus, can you do that?)
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Che_(film%5B/url%5D)"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Che_(film)&lt;/a>
you want to believe that's how he was like, even thou now we kind of know it wasn't.</p>

<p>I saw parts 1 and 2 of Che at blockbuster. Might need to make that 4 hours over a week. Saw Motorcycle Diaries years ago. Too bad Gael Garcia Bernal has not done too much lately.</p>

<p>Toy Story 3 is one we bought. Up too. and everything Tim Burton...no surprise D1 loves animation.</p>

<p>Just watched Big Fish which was a Tim Burton movie. I thought it was a slow starter, but then got better. Maybe because we watched it in 2 nights becasue we were falling asleep the first night, too far past our bedtime. Finished it last night and then watched A Mighty Wind, by the same director that did Best in Show (Christopher Guest) with many of the same actors. Same format, and was pretty funny. They call it a "mockumentrary", which was what Best in Show was also. Having shown dogs, I can really relate to that movie!!</p>

<p>another library find/the criterion collection is "Tokyo Story"
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_Story%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_Story&lt;/a>
as you can see, if wikiipedia got link in English for just one film, it must mean something.
and it does to all those foreign film makers and wannabes.
it is 1950s, not exactly how Japanese now live; house, environment, clothes etc but basic mentality is the same-sh, at least close to how we boomers x-ers grew up. I don't know nowadays, lots have happened.</p>

<p>I piled DVDs on the table and left them there as I did not expected he'd be interested, but my kid saw it before I did and said, he cried (!!??) and wants to go to Japan (he had never been) wow....
I've only seen bits and pieces before, because this is something art students should know when I was at school, but I never really gotten it. so is Kurosawa, so is Imamura, all those old Japanese things.
now that I am a parent, am getting old, lived in foreign country long enough, seeing this old-old Japan in black and white did something to me.
like, I did laundry at crowded laundromat as I do every weekends. I would usually stuff everything hurriedly into my IKEA bag (THE perfect laundromat bag, if you need one) and leave ASAP. Folding tables are usually taken and chaotic with so many people around.
but
today, I folded my face towels, corner to corner, neatly, taking time, on my knees as I sat on the bench. If there were tatami-mat, I would have sat on it on my legs just like Setsuko Hara (Japanese Bergman or Grace Kelly, maybe)
Now I do see that why those big named director admire Ozu.
again
Thanks NYPL, and pretentious Criterion Collection for make it easily available.</p>

<p>I love Michael Powell and Emeric Pressburger’s The Red Shoes (1948). It is about a ballet dancer, artistic sacrifice, artistic ambition and personal happiness. It has been recently restored by Martin Scorcese who was talking up the restoration at the recent Cannes Film Festival. I haven't seen the restored version, but I love the original film!</p>

<p>mom4 and whom it may consern
inplanted from "ONLINE film degree??" thread
here is a bit from Maurizio Cattelan(the broom guy)'s 2010 Menil/Houston show review.</p>

<p>-Rather than filling a room by itself, Cattelan’s work will be exhibited throughout the museum: some quietly inserted into the nooks and crannies of Antiquities and Surrealist galleries, others more prominently placed, such as the monumental sculpture “All” , 2007, installed in one of the largest galleries. Topping it all off, so to speak, is Cattelan’s “Untitled”, 2003, depicting a “drummer boy,” which will be perched on the roof of the Menil’s Renzo Piano building (echoing the Gunter Grass novel, “The Tin Drum” ).</p>

<p>soooo it is the same drum and the drummer boy!! just wearing converse-sque sneakers!!!
and
gawk!! another Piano museum!! small museum, big museum, good museum, bad museum, left foot right foot feet feet feet, oh how many many museum he built?
(and gonna built new Whitney by 2015. the fate is calling!!! our kids would finish UG studies then!! <wink> <wink>)</wink></wink></p>

<p>and here is wikipedia bits. who would know these things and bother to make it public? now I have to go look for that Criterion Collection.</p>

<p>-In 1980, the film version of The Tin Drum was first cut, and then banned as child pornography by the Ontario Censor Board in Canada.[3] Similarly, on June 25, 1997, following a ruling made by State District Court Judge Richard Freeman, who had reportedly only viewed a single isolated scene of the film, The Tin Drum was banned from Oklahoma County, Oklahoma, citing the state's obscenity laws for portraying underage sexuality. All copies in Oklahoma City were likewise confiscated and at least one person who had rented the film on video tape was threatened with prosecution. Michael Camfield, leader of a local chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union, filed a lawsuit against the police department on July 4, 1997, alleging that the tape had been illegally confiscated and his rights infringed.</p>

<p>This led to a high-profile series of hearings on the film's merits as a whole versus the controversial scenes, and the role of the judge as censor. The film emerged vindicated and most copies were returned within a few months.[4][5] By 2001, all the cases had been settled and the film is legally available in Oklahoma County. This incident was covered in the documentary film Banned in Oklahoma, which is included in the 2004 Criterion Collection DVD release of The Tin Drum.[6]</p>

<p>subversion of art in film or the other way around
too bad Minneapolis is bit too far.
where is the kid from other thread who stuck in there with no $$$ to move, aren't you lucky?
<a href="http://www.artdaily.org/index.asp?int_sec=2&int_new=48198%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.artdaily.org/index.asp?int_sec=2&int_new=48198&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Watched The Red Shoes from the Criterion collection. Kind of slow start, but very well done. Now on to the next one! I have been meaning to watch Tin Drum for years. Maybe now is a good time. I love looking the library as well. That way, I have a week to find 2 hours to watch something.</p>

<p>Babette's Feast is one of my favorite 80's foreign films. A story of expression through food. I need to see it again!</p>

<p>I read the Tin Drum years ago,while in high school, and really enjoyed it. Guess I gotta watch the movie now!</p>