<p>Agree, do not write a letter to a VP. This is not a good thing to do. Contact HR is there are any unresolved issues or questions. A decade ago I encountered the world’s most awful boss. I gritted my teeth and finally found 'the next job." I never said a word to her manager, the CEO, although he and I had a good relationship and I probably could have. About two years after I left a friend was having a drink with the CEO and he told my friend to tell me that ‘the wrong lady went out the door.’ These things happen for good or for bad and almost always what goes around, comes around. So if the OP’s D’s boss is a train wreck waiting to happen…there will be a crash at some point by that time she’ll be on to the next job and the news will make her day.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, I’ve had more than my share of bad bosses. I believe in karma. What goes around comes around. I’ve seen it, time after time after time.</p>
<p>As I have mentioned, I have lost job 9 times. Some were my own going somewhere else, but I have had my share of lay offs. The rule is the same, keep you mouth shut and leave on very good and positive terms. You always should take care of your future, that means good references. It does not matter who is right and who is wrong at this point. I have never alsed, I just listened and kept silent as much as I could…one reason I have always found another job. Just think about yourself and your next place. I do not know any other ways.</p>
<p>A person who voluntarily leaves a job for a better opportunity has not “lost” a job. A person who “leaves” a job in lieu of being fired, demoted or otherwise reprimanded has “lost” a job.</p>
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<p>Definitely have her write the letter-it will be cathartic. And then,** throw it in the trash. **</p>
<p>Great recommendation, Nrdsb4. Throw it away, or flush it or throw it in the fireplace. Or save it in the cmputer and read it down the road when time has passed and she can look back on how she felt. Or she can vent in our “say it here” thread!!</p>
<p>How did yesterday’s interview go, mumzee?</p>
<p>Nrdsb4,
Your advices are always perfect, yes make sure to throw it in the trash.</p>
<p>This unfairness really annoys me. You can have a manager/supervisor/boss that is the spawn of the devil, but unless they somehow trip themselves up, they stay forever. This unwritten rule about never saying anything negative only perpetuates bad management. People leave but never say anything about bad behavior and treatment. Everyone is so afraid. You could be cold in your grave before karma kicks in for Boss from Hell. I’ll bet anything that this supervisor has been mistreating staff for years but either manages to suck up to his/her boss or no one wants to make the effort to make them accountable. I know that discretion is the better part of valor and lif isn’t fair, etc. etc. but dang I hate to see this kind of person get away with treating others like *****. grrrrrrr</p>
<p>LIfe is not fair, but it is awesome to live…</p>
<p>Chances are very good that there is nothing that the daughter would tell the VP that he doesn’t already know.</p>
<p>Some people may think it is easy to be the boss, and he/she could do whatever they want. It is really not the case. Many corporations now have set up a hot line which allows employees to “anonymously” report any manager’s wrong doing. Once it is reported, HR is required to follow throw with an investigation. I have seen this to be abused by many employees, and most managers are not safe from it. </p>
<p>I personally have been investigated, and have had to spend a lot of time and energy to clear my name. This included having a third party to read all of my emails from work (without my knowledge) and interviewing my staff. There is usually no repercussion to the accuser if the accustion turns out to be false, unless of coursed if accused should find out who the accuser is. I would advise anyone who is a manager to be very careful of what you say, do or write to people at work.</p>
<p>The problem is that sometime people just think too much. Some circumstances dictate not to think but accept as is and move on as quickly as possible before more damage is done. Thinking sometime is not very wise, it will lead to much worse situation than the current bad one.</p>
<p>Interview went well and they didn’t make a big deal about the firing. Who knows what they truly thought though. She wasn’t very interested in the job. Had a phone interview with another recruiter. </p>
<p>Old job had a decentralized format, no real head of HR (weird). Pardon my stupidity but what is the drawback to writing to the VP. They’ve already fired her. She applied for unemployment, haven’t heard if they’re going to try to block that.
They job in the other department is still open. Does it make any sense to contact the manager she met with there?</p>
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<p>Of course, all of the interview coaching books tell job seekers what kind of answer to give, so that you are unlikely to get a completely honest answer for this question. (But later, after someone has been working at your workplace for a while, s/he will gladly join in the watercooler chatter about dysfunctional previous workplaces…)</p>
<p>I would think it is unlikely that a manager in another department would hire a person who has been recently terminated from the company. I could be wrong, but I think it is highly highly unlikely.</p>
<p>Some firms have rules that an employee couldn’t be rehired within a set period of time (like 18 months), especially if they have received severance. If an employee was fired for cause, then forget about it. </p>
<p>As far as writing to VP…the firing manager didn’t act on his own, he have had to consult the VP before he went ahead with firing the D. Even if the manager was wrong in firing the D, VP would be defensive of the manager’s action (assuming VP was a decent person). If he is just as bad as the manager or gets enraged after reading the D’s letter, he could decide to forward it to D’s recruiters or her new employer. OP’s D has nothing to gain and everything to lose by writing to the VP. That is another thing to remember, the D should not tell anyone at her old job where she is interviewing until she shows up at new job.</p>