First World Problems Dept.: the disappointing $1 million wedding

The wedding was more like $3 million, not just a piddly $1 million. :wink:

Well, it isn’t raw, lol, though I admit the idea isn’t attractive to me, at all. (I got stuck at the heel protectors, which just ruin the look of expensive shoes at an expensive wedding.)

One comment made about Bernie is he’s the mad dog you want on your side.

Btw, the wedding is reputed to have cost well over 1M. And she’s suing for a fraction of that.

in my post no. 16. I lol’d at the idea of ostrich eggs, but I don’t see them in either of the links. Can someone PLEASE show them to me? (I could be all wrong 
 maybe I’ll want a set of my own!)

The ostrich egg shell is a common tourist souvenir in South Africa, where he is from and where they met. You can make vases or coin banks out of them, or beer steins or glasses, which they did. This wedding really doesn’t sound over the top to me. Way more expensive than mine, yes, but also very personalized to the history of both families. I feel like it’s their version of “Cousin Sue is making the cake.” https://www.amazon.com/Premium-Ostrich-Eggshell-Grade-Standard/dp/B00FN7HYEK

I would imagine she had them stemmed and painted, maybe by the same artists from her company that did the linens?

That makes sense. I assumed somehow that “ostrich egg drink” mentioned in a few posts was some sort of an eggnog-like concoction. Eggnog = yuck in my book. :slight_smile: Still, I would not drink anything out of an eggshell without a guarantee that it has been bleached to kill listeria and salmonella.

I guess I’m in the minority here. I think the wedding was over the top but I don’t automatically assume the Carl’s are trying to stiff the planner. I have know a few people who have used highly regarded planners from Los Angeles. I think many of them see a wealthy client and suggest things that are crazy expensive and insist that only “their” sources can execute it properly.Do I think it’s a waste of money to spend that much or have two ceremonies- yes.
I loved the napkins, tablecloth and the flower girl dress. I think it is great that even with the extravaganza they tried to make it uniquely them. I love linens and I wish I could afford Porcoult. Years ago I received for a birthday a set of travel trays by Porcoult, it is lovely and my favorite travel accessory.
Regarding @doschicos post #82- horse sales don’t go by any of the rules that most of us expect when we buy something. When buying or selling most items you assume that the selling price is agreed upon by the seller and the agent. In horse sales that is not always the case. An agent will tell someone they sold the horse for 30,000 yet actually sold it for 45,000 and pocket the money. In the lawsuit he states his agent would not provide him proof of what she actually paid for the horses.
When we bought my D’s last horse I dealt first hand with how multilayered payment was in the horse sales business. The owner had placed the horse at a sales barn, the sales barn placed it at a training facility. The training facility showed the horse to a trainer. That trainer told my D’s trainer about the horse. The horse was according to all the layers worth minimum $45,000 but they “needed” it sold to cover unpaid training costs. The training barn was able to sell the horse because the bills hadn’t been paid even though they weren’t the owner. They were willing to sell for “X” price. My D rode the horse and loved it. We had a vet check who came up with a few red flags and we negotiated for a lesser price. I think in hindsight the horse was drugged for the trial. The negotiations for price was difficult and I am sure that every person along that route from owner to our trainer got paid. I highly doubt that the owner of the horse knew what we had paid for the horse. My D ended up paying under 20 for the horse with all the “professionals” wanting her to feel like she got a great deal since the value of the horse was so much greater. It wasn’t. The horse is a talented nutjob who can jump really high fences but is cuckoo on the flat and while being saddled. Most farriers won’t even shoe him. The horse is worthless because only the most talented rider can get on him. The crazy thing is that with no saddle he is the most calm horse. The Carl’s paid astronomical prices for those horses and I have no doubt that they were taken advantage of.
The Carl’s problem in both lawsuits is that they weren’t savvy consumers.

What makes you think that they aren’t also doing that? :slight_smile:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4235412/Wedding-planner-Mindy-Weiss-sues-unpaid-bill.html

“Weiss said the family never used the word ‘budget’ in conversations about the affair”

If I had millions of dollars, I would make sure not to make my daughter the laughing stock for many people by getting involved in a law suit worth a couple of hundred grand.

^^^ Well me too, but if I had 100 million dollars, which seems more the category they are in (I don’t know), the million dollar wedding makes more sense.

100K for a wedding even blows my mind, although I know it isn’t that uncommon.

If they are worth 100 Miss, the wedding was about 1% of their wealth. How much does your wedding cost? 1-2% of your wealth? If os, they are not that different.

They are just plain ostrich egg shells, not painted or stemmed.

Re: @mom60’s post above, there is a reason the term “horse-trading” has become a part of everyday vernacular referring to hard bargaining and haggling. Her post indicates why - a lot of middlemen who all want a cut. :slight_smile:

Despite the title of the original article and hence this thread, all indications are that the wedding was in the $3 million range not $1 million.

And, euch an urge to paint them as normal folks, oy.

“If I had millions of dollars, I would make sure not to make my daughter the laughing stock for many people by getting involved in a law suit worth a couple of hundred grand.”

OTOH, a couple of hundred grand here and there, and in no time millions are gone. I would make sure there are no disputes to begin with by setting the budget and having precise $$ max for things etc. Waiving a copy of the contract in front of the planner’s lawyer’s face could do a lot of magic
 unless the lawyer is a scumbag that likes to file lawsuits destined to be thrown out. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, as they say.

It’s not an urge on my part. Not quite sure what the point of the thread is. To me, the thread feels like a wedding porn. I am sure there are people here who spend close to 6 figure on a wedding. That would look more than over the top to many other people. And we don’t talk about it. Why not? Extravagance on our scale is just good taste?

We don’t talk about those weddings because there is no squabbling over “over the top” charges and “the sky is the limit” budgets. :slight_smile:

No, I think we are self centered. What we do is right but more than that is outrageous. I am sure they also have limits. We just don’t see their limits and think it’s sky high.

I don’t know why anyone would consider their D a “laughing stock.” I think almost everyone “gets” that her parents paid for the wedding and it’s her parents who are disputing the bill. IMO, there’s no reason in the world why anyone would think less of their D because of this.

In fact, I’m not ready to think less of the parents for disputing the bill. Maybe they are in the wrong. Maybe Weiss is. Maybe they are equally responsible. I don’t think we have enough facts to know. But thinking less of the D because dad is disputing the bill? Nope
makes no sense to me.

We don’t know all the particular details but I think perhaps the Carls trusted their friend and florist Peter to make a recommendation (Weiss) who is also honorable. How many times have we trusted our friends to make a recommended purchase that turned out to be a dud? Perhaps the cost of the dud to us was low enough that we didn’t complain but it was still money wasted.

Well, the attorneys are happy to help resolve these issues – their wages are helping pay their bills. It is crazy to me that sophisticated people don’t iron out things in advance so there isn’t all the ill-will that is generated when things blow up like this. I really can’t believe this type of publicity is great for any of the principal parties involved. Yech!