Immune response to infection or vaccination does vary. Seems like your kid has weaker immune response to viral vaccinations (chicken pox, hepatitis B, measles) or infections (chicken pox → shingles) than most.
Same with my D. Fortunately it was a mild case. S was born in 1996 and I remember him getting the vaccine.
My brothers and I all had chicken pox, one right after the other. My poor mom! I thought of the poster who mentioned vaccines make it easier for moms to work.
I got mumps in second grade. We suffered an outbreak in my class, my folks rushed me to get a vaccine as soon as the outbreak was announced, I still got them pretty badly (missed a week of school, and my birthday, and felt awful). My brothers did not, thanks to their quick vax.
No measles, but I did receive a bonus measles shot in my mid twenties when there was an outbreak on my law school campus among students who got less potent early vaccines. The day the outbreak was announced, my roommate came home claiming of feeling sick and swooned on the couch. She felt better the next day, but by then I had already run for the booster.
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I heard an NPR broadcast today…one of the speakers said there were measles outbreaks in 15 states….so far…and she anticipated this would get worse.
I always wondered whether incidents like your child’s had to do with improperly stored vaccine - it has to be stored at 0 Fahrenheit or lower. I knew that my office freezer was consistently 5-10 below, and I knew that we never let it sit out of the freezer. But one time I did see a kid who had had two doses with us, who subsequently got chicken pox, although it was pretty mild. I was rather surprised.
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This is exactly what I am afraid of. And since the incubation is up to 21 days, and since they’re highly contagious for 4 days before the onset of the rash (and 4 more days after that), we are only seeing the very tippy-top of the iceberg.
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The family from our school with the kids with chickenpox were terrible cases. I think one child was still under 5 so had probably only had one shot, but the other two were in school and had had both, and not at the same time so it wouldn’t have been a case of improperly stored vaccine. The chickenpox vaccine only has an 85% success rate.
But I’m still grateful for that vaccine. And the shingles vaccine. And the MMR…
This thread made me check my 36 yo immunization record he needed for college (still in his college file) - yep he had the chickenpox vaccine in high school.
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A mother’s job is never done. Except I just gave my 27 and 28 y.o.'s their vaccination records and they are now responsible.
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A couple of measles cases in Chicago, including a kid who was living in a migrant shelter. Unvaccinated people in the shelter (nearly 1,900 people there) have to quarantine there for 10 days, those who can prove vaccination can leave.
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Can you imagine, how many migrants grab vaccine records to bring with them?
If the authorities come in right away, and administer an MMR to every person 6 months of age or older in the shelter no matter what their history, that will stop the transmission. They can leave 72 hours after having received an MMR.
A ten day quarantine won’t be enough - measles can take up to a 21 day incubation period.
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Exactly. I expect most of them are there for 10 days. City reps were vaccinating people there today, assuming the person gave permission (not sure if they would be able to leave after 72 hrs). I hear you on the 21 day incubation period. Separately, I had no idea we had a shelter here that held 1,900.
It might depend on when and where the family came into the US. Remember the summer when a ton a unaccompanied minors entered, and they placed them in camps in New Mexico? My friend was an ICE agent and he was assigned there. Until there was an outbreak of chickenpox and he’d never had them. But all arriving to the camps either got a full series of vaccination as they crossed into Texas, Ariz, Cal or they got them at the camps. Of course, many vaccines need boosters and the child/family might not be in a shelter or camp at the time they need the booster.
My older son got chicken pox in 1992 and gave it to me. I missed over a month of work. My younger son got a very mild case in 1995 or so. Still no vaccines even though Japan had approved them before either kid got sick. I only got measles as a kid. I got the bad MMR vaccine and then in my 30s, my doctor gave me the newer version. My older younger brother got mumps, but I didn’t.
It’s spreading in the shelter. Clearly they didn’t go through and give MMRs to everyone who couldn’t prove they’d already had two doses, and to everyone 6 months or older who hadn’t yet been immunized.
The above article says over 900 people in the shelter have been vaccinated so far. Stating the obvious…no one can require/compel anyone in the shelter or elsewhere to get vaccinated.
They really can. “Get vaccinated or leave.” The damage may already be done if a child or family was already in the shelter and exposed, but they can make requirements to enter the shelter.
When I moved to Florida, I was told my kids couldn’t set foot in the school (or a daycare or a rec center) until I proved they were vaccinated with MMR and a few other things.
I don’t think many trying to enter a shelter are objecting to getting vaccinated.
According to some articles some are refusing, but most are not. Not sure if Chicago has sent any migrants sent here from TX ‘back’….Chicago is a sanctuary city.
But sanctuary cities can still have their own rules. They can have a rule that if you want to enter a city shelter, you must have proof of vaccination or submit to it right there. If you don’t, you won’t be sent back to Texas but you can’t receive services either.
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