Flags are Hate Speech at UC Irvine according to Associated Students council

Maybe they are pursuing human rights issues in preparation for applying to Columbia law school and takign Amal Clooney’s course http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2015/03/06/amal-clooney-joins-ny-law-school-faculty/24539481/

This is pretty mild. My generation burned flags in protest of endless, meaningless wars.

In those days it was freedom of speech. Now it is freedom from speech.

But that really means ‘freedom from hearing your speech and only hearing my speech because your speech offends the politically correct groups’.

College should require a course on the history and meaning of the First Amendment and the rest of the Constitution. Most college students today seem not to understand these principles. In this thread they don’t understand the First Amendment. In other threads they don’t understand the idea of due process when it comes to the sexual assault issue.

“I’m offended” seems to have risen to a position of power, and to imply a duty on the offender to right it. There is no right to never have your delicate sensibilities offended.

I’m very liberal, but think this is going way too far.

These are my two favorite comments underneath the article:

Time to remove that OFFENSIVE AMERICAN currency from their pockets too
They forget it’s that “offensive” American flag and what it stands for that allows them the freedom to pull moronic stunts like this.

That is ridiculous, this is America, the greatest country on earth. Shame on them.

Those who voted for this probably think they are better than the rest of us, never done anything to help this nation.

Absolutely appalling

Some of the reactions to this resolution are a bit overwrought even though I also feel the resolution is ridiculous.

I support the students’ first amendment right to vote in such a resolution…and those who disagree exercising their first amendment right to voice their disagreement…including mocking them mercilessly and laughing at their expense.

Laughter here is the best retort to such resolutions…

I also look forward to reading about possible impending lawsuit against this group by students who feel not being allowed to display flags is a violation of their first amendment rights,

Seems an unnecessary response. Just ignore. More effective.

It looks like the vote was 6 to 4, with the ASUCI President in firm opposition:

“The ASUCI Legislative Council recently passed a piece of legislation regarding the display of the American flag and its prohibition of display in ASUCI common space. I stand firmly against this piece of legislation, though I understand the authors intent and supporters intent, I disagree with the solution the council has come to.”

http://www.asuci.uci.edu/legislative/legislations/print.php?cnum=R50-70&gov_branch=ASUCI

http://www.asuci.uci.edu/2015/03/statement-from-asuci-president-on-flag-legislation/

http://news.uci.edu/briefs/campus-statement-on-flying-the-american-flag/

Pretty much everyone with the exception of six undergrads agrees this is silliness.

Yeah, and the instigator of this nonsense will have these articles come up every time someone such as a future employer Googles his name.

Good for them! (Meaning the university’s response in post 31)

How liberalism has changed

Back in the days, “Fahrenheit 451” by Ray Bradbury was a liberal favorite as a cautionary tale. It depicted a dystopia in which books are illegal and are burnt when found (Fahrenheit 451 is the temperature at which paper burns). Why? It started when different minority groups objected to certain books, and in the end, no inoffensive books could be found.

And here we are today.

The author of the legislation, Matthew Guevara, included this language in it:

Hanged?? Maybe we are misinterpreting his intent, and he really wants people to stop killing flags!

For every generation all sorts of dopes and nitwit organizations have been present on college campuses. Move along folks, nothing to see here.

I don’t get how they’re being entitled? Like I don’t have an American flag hanging in my room, does that make me entitled? You seem really angry and I have no idea why.

^^^ it’s an entitlement of never having your feelings hurt

@warbrain- six students from a university of thousands of students decided that their own opinions were so special and important that they could decide, on their own oh-so-important vote, that the flags must be taken down. What is in YOUR room? If I decided to go into your room and take down whatever I wanted - even if it was important to you - would that be OK with you? From what I have read, the vast majority of the student body condemns this decision, and therefore these six silly, entitled students acted selfishly. The room or rooms from which these flags were stripped belong to the entire student body, not just these six kids.

Not to mention the fact that state AND FEDERAL dollars support this institution. I realize that these clowns may have been elected to these positions, but their job as represntatives of the student body is to legislate matters on behalf of the student body as a whole, and not make up their own rules on their own whims.

I really think this is one of those schools where most people are apathetic so those who are elected to things tend to be the loonies. But, this should have been stopped before anyone touched anything in that lobby.