There are plenty of reasons to choose (or not) a school, but this should not be one of them. The actions of a few students in student government do not an undergraduate education make. (Once you get to any college, you will quickly see that most students consider student government a do-nothing forum; they just ignore it.)
Those 6 students should be expelled.
Opinion of the Associated Students council…should be taken seriously??? Not sure about the washed out brains that produced this type of opinion.
Say what? Washed out brains? Thats rude. The beauty of this country is that people are free to express their opinions, even if they differ from yours. You may not like what the students said/did but you love the fact that they have the right to do it. Insulting them is unhelpful.
And @MiamiDAP can express her opinion as well…
In another thread there is a discussion about the benefit (or lack thereof) of name-calling. There are more appropriate ways to express one’s opinion.
But, on a positive note, at least it wasn’t another post about the benefits of a val from a small private HS selecting a full tuition scholarship to an instate school and going to med school paid for by parents.
Sounds interesting, @jym626, I bet the val went to an Ivy, that would cost a bomb.
Do you mean “if” the val had gone to an ivy instead of the state school?
@jym626 first you say…
Then just 2 posts later you say…
So as long as they express the opinion in a way that is consistent with your style, it is appropriate.
I think you just divided by zero.
LOL.
skyoverme,
No need to insult. FWIW, I expressed my opinion- that name calling was unnecessary and unhelpful. And rude.
So back to topic, not sure why this thread got bumped anyway, This issue at UC Irvine was resolved… Bigger issues with antisemitic issues on other campuses.
Oh good grief. Miami is ALLOWED to express her opinion however she wishes (provided they are within the TOS and even then are just subject to removal and possibly being banned.) OTOH, jym is also allowed to express her opinion that there are more appropriate ways to express one’s opinion.
One is free to call another poster’s comments redundant, unhelpful, and insulting. That doesn’t mean that that poster has to listen.
Personally, I just scan over posts when I know exactly what they are going to say
LOL, we know that some posters don’t listen
FWIW, there is a difference between saying, for example, that something is creepy vs calling someone a creep (e.g Josh Duggar’s behavior). So your point is well taken, romani. Commenting on an action differs from commenting on people and the quality of their brains. Hope the UC Irvine’s parents aren’t reading cc. Just saying.
Perhaps, to clarify before this thread hopefully goes quiescent, was that it was ironic that a poster, who chose to live in a country where free speech is allowed, made fun of their intellect by exercising her free speech for their (the students at Irvine) exercising theirs. Still feel saying someone has washed out brains is rude, but perhaps pointing out the irony of the comment might have been clearer. The conversation in the Columbia mattress thread does a better job of addressing how the use of derogatory descriptors is not relevant to the discussion. Interesting that these conversations are occurring in parallel.
Free speech arguments don’t apply here, the First Amendment only applies to the government. This is a private site and speech on here is ultimately decided by the ownership. And as their proxy for the moment, let’s restrict speech on this thread to addressing the actual action taken by the students at UCI. As a general rule of thumb, if another member’s post is not reportable as a Terms of Service violation, then please don’t directly comment on the quality of how they expressed their opinion and stick to disagreeing with their argument itself. If it is reportable, then please report it without commenting about the violation on the thread itself. Thank you. Oh, and as a (mostly) reformed snarky comment maker myself, I would ask that all please keep the sarcasm and veiled insults to oneself as well.
Expressing an opinion is not the same as disrespecting the American flag that costs this country many lives. Stepping on the flag, burning flag and call it a “hate crime” is simply a treason if done by the US citizen. It shows to our enemies our stupidity and weakness as all these acts belong in the enemy camps, that is what they do, they disrepect the American flag and are very happy to show it to the rest of the world.
However, I do not take the opinion of the Associated Students council seriously. Just bunched of washed out brains…who have NO opinion of their own, NONE, zilch…
It’s actually not treason to burn the flag. It is protected speech under the bill of rights. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_v._Johnson
But these UC Irvine students DO have an opinion of their own. To say they have “zilch” is factually incorrect. They expressed it, and fortunately the council disagreed with their proposal. They did not step on the flag or burn the flag. And they did nothing that would be considered “treason”. All of that is inaccurate. They recommended removing one from a wall in a community area where ostensibly it might make some students feel uncomfortable. Did you read the thread, including the linked documents from the school?
Whatever, these kids are doing…let them play, I guess, some people just stay at 15 y o and nothing anybody could do
In the likelihood that some posters haven’t read the thread or the links, here are a few of the helpful ones: The original proposal was to ban any nation’s flag, not just one country’s flag. http://news.uci.edu/briefs/campus-statement-on-flying-the-american-flag/
http://www.asuci.uci.edu/flag/ and the state responded by proposing an amendment to the state constitution preventing any state-funded school from banning the display of the American flag. http://www.dailypilot.com/news/tn-dpt-me-0311-uci-veto-20150309,0,2106223.story So, this is all a non-issue that was resolved months ago. No sure why the thread was bumped up in the first place.
One can’t help question the brain function of students at a public US university who apparently didn’t think about or expect the blowback they would receive from banning the display of the American flag. Or else they did, and had no problem with the potential consequences. In either case, calling them brainwashed, (or washed out brains), isn’t too farfetched or particularly rude, in my opinion. Brainwashed means adopting radically different beliefs (due to forced pressure).