<p>About an hour before D2’s HS grad party, there was a huge downpour. A doorway in my kitchen area started leaking water from the top of the doorframe! :eek: Fast forward through insurance company discussions (no money from them, of course) and two different contractors looking at it. Looks like “kickout” or “diversion” flashing was not installed on my roof when the house was built in 2001. It is part of the building code in our state now, but was not added until 2007. Every roofline in my house where a parallel board meets a roof (dormers, several other rooflines – custom built house) has some rot going on at the point where the board meets the roof. And I suspect a couple other water issues inside the house related to this, too. :(</p>
<p>I called my original builder to come look. Even though we are past the 10 year point (and in our state you can’t sure your builder for pretty much anything after that time), he came out. He agreed that the lack of kickout flashing is a problem. He also said my shingles have been recalled! And that I can probably get a settlement from the shingle company to cover about half the cost of reroofing – he implied that if they do the re-roofing, he would do the flashing work/board replacement at no cost. Although I am sure that does not cover any internal water damage in the house/walls… He said maybe we can get some hail damage money from insurance as well (he said the roofer who will take the photos for the shingles claim might be able to detect what you can’t see from the ground).</p>
<p>But… I went to the shingle company website, and it looks like my shingles are NOT covered by the settlement. BUT, the builder said he used the same shingles on his house and he did get a settlement. So we are going through filing a claim.</p>
<p>Anyone else go through a Certainteed shingles claim? Anyone else have rot due to insufficient flashing? Sigh…</p>
<p>I have filed and won a Certainteed shingles claim. It was for New Horizon Shangles, which, ahem, had a whole lot of claims and are no longer manufactured by Certainteed. I had to send several shingles and some other paperwork. House was built in 1998. Not sure when I filed the claim–2005 or so.</p>
<p>Everyone I talked to said no one ever gets warranty from a shingle. Mine never sealed, they blew off at 20-30 mph winds (often), and the granules didn’t stick. I am sure part of my problem was also bad installation with poorly spaced staples. Don’t know how they’d treat flashing issues.</p>
<p>After much leaking we finally bit the bullet and got a new roof this summer. Then gutters, then repainting the entire upstairs. Now a well went dry so I drilled a new well. I’m pretty much mentally and fiscally exhausted.</p>
<p>sryrstress, the reason I am worried my “shangles” (what kind of name is that, anyway?) won’t be covered is because they are fiberglass, not organic. The website for the class action suit looks like only the organic ones are covered. But my builder claims his were covered for his house… but it is possible he is just trying to stall on making any commitment on fixing the flashing, since it takes a while to get a claim processed.</p>
<p>I have had a few blow off in storms over the years, and the granules come off – green crumbs, since the roof is green, on my driveway and garden after it rains. They have not failed wholesale yet, only the leak from the flashing issue (which is my builder’s fault, not Certainteed’s) seems to be allowing water to enter.</p>
<p>I am enviously reading the downsizing thread… it is just me, the dog, and a 3300 foot house with multiple leaks. But I probably have to fix this before I can sell it.</p>
<p>So with you on the too big house with lots of leaks. Not my summer with water. Couldn’t keep it from coming down and couldn’t get it going up the well…</p>
<p>I’d think you’d have to fix or disclose and a bank won’t want to loan without it being fixed first.</p>
<p>I kind of had failure with Certainteed. My white siding (3400 SF house) all turned yellow within a year. It didn’t have the typical coating and wouldn’t wash off bugs and stains like siding should. They replaced all that, but I had to find the contractor and deal with having my one-year old house resided.</p>
<p>So…Certainteed has backed their warranty with me, but given my luck with their products, not sure I’d use them again.</p>
<p>intparent - you have me alarmed and I will have to go and dig for the paperwork on our house. We built a custom home in 2000 with way too many funky roof angles. We know we have had leaks on 2 of them. Our shingles are those 3 dimensional ones and for some reason the metal flashing in the “valleys” has rusted. I don’t even want to know what it looks like where horizontal meets vertical. I thought our shingles were called Timberline.</p>
<p>Our house was one of the first built in Minnesota that were known as “category one or something like that” - had to do with previous houses being built too airtight. I have a vague memory that there was confusion on the part of the builder as to how to handle the roofline and the new building requirements. That steel roofing we saw at the state fair is looking pretty attractive right now!</p>
<p>We are in MN, too. And believe me… our builder was not going to knock on our door and let us know about this. But he didn’t seem too surprised when he came out. Now all of my issues aren’t shingle related. The way he did the flashing where the roof meets the boards coming into it isn’t right. The MN building code was updated in 2007 so they are supposed to use the correct way of flashing. And something I read said inspectors are watching for this since the building code change (which could get me a ding on an inspection when I go to sell, causing a bank to flinch at lending or a seller to back off).</p>
<p>I did just check the website, and Timberline is not on the list of shingle names in the class action suit. The website is:</p>
<p>I did a ton of shingle research this summer. Timberline is supposed to be a good one.</p>
<p>If you do steel, I’d recommend standing seam. I bet 80% of new roofs in my area are exposed fastener. I think in 10-15 years there are going to be a lot of problems with the rotting/deterioration of the grommets under the fastener and/or condensation issues affecting the wooden furring underneath. Boy, I really wanted standing seam. The bid for my house was $26,000…</p>
<p>I won’t be putting steel on. Will probably replace with some kind of regular shingle again. I am selling in the next two years, so am not going to go with anything unusual or wildly expensive, as I expect I will still be paying the labor costs. And my house is a weathered gray cedar with dark green trim, it looks great with its current green roof (except for the recall and leaking part of it!). Will likely work with my builder to pick a more reputable shingle in a similar color.</p>