Flip This House #5

What do you mean exactly by a farmhouse sink? I love the old ones that were really wide and had sloped and ridged sides that you could drain dishes on. I don’t like the new ones where the sink forms the front part of the counter. Are those called drop in sinks?

I don’t like deep sinks either because it hurts my back to have to reach down that far even though I’m only 5’ 4".

I LOVE my deep single bowl stainless steel sink. Its a Franke, and is wide enough 31 " and deep enough 9" to hold large size pots or pans.

http://www.amazon.com/Franke-ORX110-Single-Undermount-Kitchen/dp/B000GPU50Y/ref=pd_sim_60_3?ie=UTF8&dpID=21NACnqbsgL&dpSrc=sims&preST=AC_UL160_SR160%2C160&refRID=1MA2QS3KRXYVHDXQWJ66

That surprises me. Not that you would prefer a gas cooktop, but that – even if the rest of the house is exactly what you want – you’d let this one thing drive your decision? When we were looking to downsize four years ago, there were many things about many houses that we didn’t like, but it always came down to the size of the house, the location, the potential of the house and its property, the location, and the style of the house. And the location. Anything else can be modified.

I love farmhouse sinks…in older houses with a farmhouse style. I don’t see this in CB’s kitchen in this house. I think a really nice deep bowl sink is more important.

In a $1.4 million dollar house, I would not want to replace anything in the kitchen, and definitely would not want to convert from convection to gas cooktop. If someone wanted gas cooktop, I can see them walking away from this house.

But then…I’m not a foodie…so the convection one would be just fine with me!

When DS and DIL bought their home a year ago, they planned to replace the induction cooktop with gas (there is a gas line there, for either the dryer or the hot water heater- I can’t recall). DIL much prefers cooking with gas (truth be told, so do I , even though I am not a big cook). I suggested they live with what they have for now (there was nothing wrong with the induction cooktop) and get used to it. There was no need to replace the cooktop at the time they bought the house and they had plenty of other things to spend $ on (like furniture). They still talk about replacing the cooktop, but it is way down on the priority list.

@scualum Thank you for sharing what you are looking for. I believe that the target market for this renovation is going to be a family with kids. Maybe not young kids, but kind of a ‘move up’ house for a family. Trash compactors are not prevalent in this area, so I don’t think I’ll put one in. I feel that wine fridges are personal to a buyer and may not appeal to the broad market (although I see every developer putting them in their model homes for tract development). However, I have been way wrong many times on who eventually buys the house.

I think the smartest thing I can do is set some outlets in the walls behind some cabinets - just in case they want to put in an appliance. The struggle is trying to make sure buyers know that they are there - most buyers are not exactly sticking their heads way back into lower cabinets :slight_smile:

I’m not clear on what you mean by ‘no lower cabinets’??? How does someone have a kitchen without any lower cabinets? Did you mean ‘upper cabinets’, or maybe you meant, no shelves in lower cabinets. I always put in as many large drawers as possible and when drawers aren’t feasible, I put in the pull out type shelves with tall edges.

CB…our next kitchen will have deep drawers instead of lower cabinets. That and a pantry closet to hold some larger things that formerly would go in lower cabinets…will be our future kitchen.

I hate our lower cabinets…and most high end homes here have drawers instead. Exception is below the sink.

I love our lower cabinets! We have some drawers and some cabinets below the countertop. We use all of the space, even more than the top cabinets, which mostly go to the ceiling.

I have both deep drawers and pull out lower shelves, behind doors in my newer kitchen. I wanted a balance and did not like the “all lower drawer drawer” look.
LOVE the drawers under the cooktop- easy to store all the pots and pans I use regularly.
I also have a floor to ceiling 34 " deep double panty where all canned, bottled or dry food products are stored
As a result I have very few upper cabinets and they are only in one corner, between the fridge and microwave.

I have drawers under my cooktop which I love. I also have a narrow lower next to the drawers that has a center divider. I keep my cookie sheets and long cutting boards in this cabinet.
Type of sink would not be a deal breaker for me. I prefer a large deeper bowl. I hate a tiny island sink. My island has a full size one bowl sink which we use daily. I rarely use what should be my main two bowl sink.
I would not buy a house without a gas cooktop. I think in Ca gas is preferred.
I am the minority’s but I like ice and water in my refrigerator door.

I desperately wanted to design a big separate pantry for this house, but it had to get removed to get a staircase built to 2nd story. The issue that is bugging me is that there is going to be ‘storage’ under that staircase, but no easy place to access it. I either punch a door in powder room for a closet (weird) or a put a big empty space behind bedroom closet that uses the area under staircase (another weird situation)

I may have to just enclose it and give up on using the area for storage, which would be so against my nature :slight_smile: However this house is not going to have any storage shortages between all the cabinets in the area at top of garage staircase (which I will design as a pantry with lots of tall cabinets), the extra garage and the entire basement.

I think I’ve had 2 bowl sinks my whole life and I hate them. One big sink is better and I agree it’s not a deal breaker because you can change them out relatively easily.

It’s kind of hard to change out a sink if it is an undermount sink below the countertop. Usually the lip of that sink is mounted on top of the plywood panel and below the stone/quartz/tile countertop with a lot of goo to hold it in place. So, the only way to change it out is to squeeze under the sink and use a grinder to cut out the plywood around sink mount, drop out the sink and then invent a way for a sink to stay mounted without a plywood mount.

Been there, done that ! not fun

I was just going to post that CB. When we had our granite installed,the installer was very clear that I should choose my sink very carefully. First, as you noted…it’s an undermount. And second…the hole in the granite for the sink fits the sink I chose.

Not an easy thing to swap out…at all.

CB - by no lower cabinets, I meant all drawers. Of course the drawers are mounted in a cabinet. Pull out shelves would also be ok - I’m just tired of getting on my hands and knees at our current rental house to get something that has been pushed to the back of a lower cupboard. Oh- and I love lazy Susan type shelves in the corners. Great way to access an otherwise blank space.

Re no electric cooktops - we are foodies and we want gas. At thanksgiving or Christmas it is not unusual for us to have all six burners going along with both ovens. Gas just gives a much broader range of temperatures. If it isn’t a gas range and if the house can’t be retro fitted then I’m not interested. Here in CA, some neighborhoods don’t have gas and so a propane tank is the only option. That works for us as long as the floor isn’t a concrete slab but rather has a crawl space.

I personally love lazy susans also… perfect solution for corners and they hold a ton of stuff. I have one in my home that holds so much stuff I don’t really need a separate pantry for canned and dry goods.

@coralbrook for post #2250. We have a closet behind our main walk-in bedroom closet. It isn’t big, but it is lined with cedar for woolens, silks, blankets, etc. Items moths like. Like a cedar chest, but everything is hanging; it has a door that shuts tight.

I’ve seen some “closet behind closet” for out of season clothes. San Diego might not have that need, but it can be nice to have a place for “extra stuff”.

I wish I had put in a door at the back of my extra bedroom closet. The area behind is a huge attic space above a three car garage. Would have been a great place for storage.

I’m also thinking that a space like that could be camouflaged and locked, and used to store jewelry, sterling, etc. I would love something like that in my house.