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<p>Because he was not reporting symptoms or displaying signs of a potentially worse injury. An EMT evaluated him on-scene and I would imagine the EMTs would be able to clinically decide whether he needed to go to the ER or not.</p>
<p>I can understand a fellow declining er treatment if he believed he wasn’t that seriously hurt. I can also see his judgment might be clouded through confusion, shock, or from actually being hurt. No doubt a guy thinking clearly would go, but it isn’t unreasonable to think after the shooting that he wasn’t thinking his best.</p>
<p>When GZ was explaining to the police what happened, he said that Martin was on top of him and then after he shot Martin he did not realize he had hit Martin and rolled Martin over and got on top of Martin. Zimmerman then pushed Martin’s hands apart because he believed Martin might have a weapon or something in his hands. This would explain why some witnesses saw Zimmerman on top. </p>
<p>Also Zimmerman told the police once the dispatcher told him not to follow the suspect, he stopped doing so.</p>
<p>I was rear-ended in a car wreck a few years ago…I got whacked good, the rear trunk was folded up into the front seat almost of the car I was driving and the backrest portion of driver seat was snapped broken back to 180 degrees. Ambulances showed up, but I wasn’t thinking straight, was almost in shock and said I didn’t want to go to hospital. A couple of days later I was getting lightheaded standing on my feet and then did go to hospital to get checked out. If I’m ever in a wreck again, I’m going straight to hospital for evaluation.</p>
<p>yes, of course people may not have proper judgment following an accident and head injury of any type. In this case, it was a crime, and I find it surprising that given his report that his head was repeatedly slammed into the sidewalk it is odd to me that the EMT didn’t push for the ER. And I still think if he had truly been frightened his life was threatened by said repeated head slams that he would have been worried about injury. </p>
<p>But it was also rather strange that he was not drug/alcohol tested while the dead victim was.</p>
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<p>Yet the body of TM was found to be face down and hands underneath the body. The gun shot wound is said to be from intermediate range not closed range. And the body seems to be quite a distance from the concrete path.</p>
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<p>Not true based on GZ own walk-through video statement with the police.</p>
<p>I know of a felony DUI case with serious injury in my area for a head on car wreck between two drunk drivers. Blood was only drawn from one of the drunks at the scene, when asked in court why blood wasn’t drawn from second driver the cop in court said because he thought the second driver was going to die and he didn’t bother. Blood work from hospital treatment indicated booze and opiates in second driver, but hospital blood work couldn’t be used in court. The one driver got a felony conviction and the other one got off free.</p>
<p>Not everything is done perfectly or uniformly at crime scenes, or in courtrooms.</p>
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<p>That’s not the impression I got from watching his video reenactment with the police.</p>
<p>Martin’s body was found face down by the EMT and he tried to revive Martin. I don’t think there are any pictures of the body before the EMT touched it, but I am not sure. The one’s I have seen are clearly after the EMT touched him.</p>
<p>“Blood was only drawn from one of the drunks at the scene, when asked in court why blood wasn’t drawn from second driver the cop in court said because he thought the second driver was going to die and he didn’t bother.”</p>
<p>lizard, you say not everything is done perfectly. </p>
<p>ok, well given the scenario you are comparing this one to why would they only take blood from the DEAD victim, and not the live shooter?</p>
<p>The picture was presented yesterday in court. The first arriving officer testified that the face down picture is what he saw when he first arrived at the scene before EMT arrived.</p>
<p>As for whether GZ stopped following or not, if you look at the video, he no longer talked to the dispatcher who told him to stopped when GZ left his car and walked/run to just north of the T (path) still looking for TM and later (according to GZ) attacked by TM east of the T while his car is actually south of the T.</p>
<p>I would suggest that blood wasn’t drawn from Zimmerman because police and investigators maybe assessed from Zimmerman’s actions and speech he didn’t show signs of being impaired. Police obviously couldn’t assess Trayvon in the same manner because he was dead, so they took blood sample.</p>
<p>what? why would they need TM’s blood if he was dead. you realize how ridiculous your statement sounds, please say you do…</p>
<p>lindz has certainly made up his/her mind(post 305)
For those still waiting on more evidence to decide, This part: " In this case, it was a crime,…" would read: “in this case, it may be a crime…”</p>
<p>And your first sentence in that post explains your last sentence(para 1)</p>
<p>I’ve gotta agree with lindz here. One problem with this case, to me, is the police’s handling of GZ after the shooting. I remember seeing the video of them leading him into the police statement, treating him like one of them and not like a suspect. As I recall he wasn’t even handcuffed. I hate to be a conspiracy theorist and I would love to be wrong about this but it has occurred to me that perhaps the police inflicted his head woulds after the shooting in preparation for a potential SYG or other self-defense. The lack of scrapes or DNA on TM doesn’t jibe with GZ’s story.</p>
<p>You said blood was drawn from Trayvon. I would assume blood was taken to determine if Trayvon was possibly impaired, drugged up, or drunk before he was killed.</p>
<p>There is nothing wrong with making up your mind, there are plenty of evidences that already came out. In my estimation, there is no way to prove definitively in this case, only GZ and TB knew what happened. I just don’t believe that TM was about to kill GZ with his bare hands, the force used was excessive IMO. You can label me whatever you want but it is outrageous that the kid had to die like that.</p>
<p>I truly think that GZ panicked when he noticed that TM was stronger than he thought and was afraid that he would try to shoot him with his own gun so he shot first. If he truly though TM had a gun I do not think he would have engaged him or even followed him. He (GZ) always thought he had the upper hand until something happened. We do know TM was unarmed, was not a burglar (he was a guest at the gate community), and as far as we know was alone and coming back from an errant at the local store. GZ was armed (even with a permit he still responsible for his actions), called the police and pointed TM as a suspect, and went after TM even after the police told him it was not necessary. In my opinion GZ was the aggressor and TM was defending himself. If TM used drugs, was part if a gang or was a model citizen is irrelevant in this case.</p>
<p>well you’re the first one I’ve heard sally, say that GZ was lead by police in his statement, and that maybe the police roughed him up in an attempt to provide him with a legal defense.</p>
<p>ttparent has a mind made up, also and presumably would vote not guilty based on sentence 2 in post 316. As for me, I’ll wait for more evidence.</p>
<p>lizard, please ask yourself, WHY would they need to know if Trayvon was impaired, but not GZ?</p>
<p>as Sally pointed out, GZ was treated like one of the good 'ol boys, and I know the area and the mentality that goes along with it. It wasn’t just GZ that perceived TM as an outsider and a thug. So did that police dept. Their actions spoke louder than any words ever could.</p>
<p>I do consider that a crime happened, that young man was an innocent teen in my view. We can disagree on this. Funny how you believe GZ who has lied to the court, and has had many inconsistencies in his story which is why he won’t go on the stand. Why do you believe him?</p>
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<p>At this point, I really don’t know whether he should be convicted. Every time I see one piece of evidence showing one outcome, another piece of evidence pops up showing the contrary. </p>
<p>Can anyone link the original indictment against Zimmerman. I can’t find it.</p>