Florida v. Zimmerman

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<p>Not true at all. However, since this is not a thread about that topic, I won’t go into it. Drive by comments like that strike me as highly inappropriate. You make the comment, but if we were to explain why it’s wrong we derail the thread or go into territory that is political.</p>

<p>I was at work so I have not read all the posts but as of yesterday many that I read were critical of Zimmerman and the stupid law. We have a problem with the fact that he caused the event and a 17 year old died. There should be some negative consequence to that.</p>

<p>Drive by comment? Pm me, I’d like to hear what you have to say.</p>

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<p>Data to support this? (The poll details are here, if anyone is interested in accuracy: [Would</a> you support or oppose a law requiring background checks on people buying guns at gun shows? - The Washington Post](<a href=“http://www.washingtonpost.com/page/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2013/03/12/National-Politics/Polling/question_10030.xml]Would”>http://www.washingtonpost.com/page/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2013/03/12/National-Politics/Polling/question_10030.xml)) And what of the dozens of other surveys that have shown majority support for background checks in geographic areas of every political stripe? As to the loophole, it applies to unlicensed dealers. It’s very nice that your dad bought all his guns from licensed dealers, but irrelevant. But any loophole that facilitates the purchase of a gun by, for example, a convicted rapist needs to be closed.</p>

<p>raiders83, I am unfamiliar with the grievances you expressed with regard to the matters that are apparently important to you. My observation was that the article which has been reposted in slightly altered forms on numerous pro-gun websites misrepresents the substance of the preliminary CDC-funded report. You can read it yourself and confirm that that is true. <a href=“http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=18319&page=R1[/url]”>Front Matter | Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violence | The National Academies Press;

<p>I am familiar with the argument that “biased mainstream media” doesn’t report things the way some folks like, so they feel justified in posting things that are exaggerated or untrue to counter that perceived bias, but I prefer to get my information from primary sources; i.e., if the question is “what does the CDC report say” I read the report, not what some guy with an obvious agenda says it says.</p>

<p>Like the supposed bruises on TM’s knuckles: not there in the primary source material, i.e., the actual autopsy report.</p>

<p>I think the case is getting all the pub because of all the racial aspects/supposed racial aspects.</p>

<p>No one denied race is a factor in the coverage.</p>

<p>^anti-gun , racial aspect, youth killed by adult…it has everything a certain crowd wants…</p>

<p>And I think the case is getting all the pub because the NRAcolytes are threatened by what it signifies, and are desperate to make it not be true.</p>

<p>Oh! And geeps cross-posts just in time to prove my point! Serendipity or what?</p>

<p>I am not anti-gun. I am anti 17 year olds being killed walking home from the store.</p>

<p>kluge…my post proved your point?..I doubt it</p>

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People are murdered in the country on a daily basis, many of them teenagers. I’m bothered by all of their deaths. I have no clue what that has to do with not wanting gavel-to-gavel coverage of one wildly over publicized trial on every news network to the exclusion of all other news.</p>

<p>What crowd do you think zooser, poet and I belong to? I am not so sure we do anything more then consider events on their own merits.</p>

<p>My comment was not related to the TV coverage. I could care less if the trial was on TV. I am speaking solely of the event of TM being killed.</p>

<p>Tom1944 In my 3 years here, it has become quite apparent what news stories the majority here care about…and what stories are dismissed</p>

<p>Universal background checks will no doubt be the law of the land one day. Of course, given the rate people are buying guns, I doubt by then there’ll be anyone left to screen. The issue seems irrelevant in the here and now, the Zimmerman case, anyway.</p>

<p>Let me be very clear. I am pro second amendment rights. I do not want the government to be the only ones to have weapons. I do not want the criminals to be the only ones to have weapons.</p>

<p>But, as a pro second amendment person, who happens to know many other pro second amendment people, I am horrified by laws like this which encourage cop wanna be’s to go out and shoot 17 year old kids with skittles and iced tea.</p>

<p>And, to those of you who feel we should be more concerned with the deaths being perpetrated by gang members in Chicago or elsewhere, where was THAT thread last summer? Or earlier this summer? </p>

<p>I mean, if you want to talk about it, post it.</p>

<p>This thread, to me, is about SYG laws. To others it’s about other things.</p>

<p>ETA: I realize he isn’t using SYG, but he was originally released on SYG, and it was clearly in his mind when he was chasing down Trayvon.</p>

<p>“anti-gun , racial aspect, youth killed by adult…it has everything a certain crowd wants…”</p>

<p>geeps, what a ridiculous statement. EVERYONE should be anti-guns-wielded-by-wannabe-cops-with-racist-tendencies-and-violent-history. You should honestly be ashamed of yourself for that statement. This is a site for teens/young adults and their parents. That’s the “certain crowd” here. I can’t believe you would politicize what by all accounts (except perhaps to the perpetrator) is a tragedy and a waste of a young life.</p>

<p>poet- expressed my thoughts exactly. I could care less if you own a gun.</p>

<p>Officer Doris Singleton did not know how to operate the video on GZ’s statement made immediately after the incident occured down at the police station. Only the audio was played so body language, facial expressions, etc. were missing. This seems like one more problem that surfaced for a prosecution witness. Wouldn’t someone down at Sanford PDHQ have known how to turn on the video camera? Shouldn’t that be routine SOP whenever someone is being interviewed?</p>