--for those who call UCI a "back-up"--

Colleges & Universities University of California - Irvine
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<p>THINK AGAIN!!</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.ucop.edu/news/factsheets/2009/fall_2009_admissions_table_4.pdf[/url]”>http://www.ucop.edu/news/factsheets/2009/fall_2009_admissions_table_4.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p><a href=“http://www.ucop.edu/news/factsheets/2009/freshman_admit_profile_2009.pdf[/url]”>http://www.ucop.edu/news/factsheets/2009/freshman_admit_profile_2009.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>These numbers are STAGGERING!!</p>

<p>Irvine has caught up tremendously. It’s ALMOST as hard as SD…</p>

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<p>YESS!!! AND BERKELY IS OFFICIALLY THE 2ND BEST UC BEHIND UCLA!!!</p>

<p>no, just kidding, admission rates dont mean much</p>

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<p>^ Tell me, what makes you think UCB is better than UCLA?</p>

<p>Because it has traditionally had lower admission rates? Because “people” have traditionally believed it has traditionally had lower admission rates?</p>

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<p>Who cares if UCB or UCLA is better than the other.</p>

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<p>Some people realize admittance % doesn’t mean that much.</p>

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<p>but you DO know that to the UCs, with the exception of Berkeley and LA, you are nothing more than just a number?</p>

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<p>I think you’re referring to the comprehensive review that those two school use for admitting student. If so, Irvine uses the same method, fyi.</p>

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<p>Berkeley is harder to get into than UCLA. The only reason why their acceptance rate is higher than UCLA is because a lot more people applied to UCLA.
Lawcha - you honestly don’t think selectivity matters? Why do the schools that we consider to be the best schools in the nation, such as Harvard and Stanford, have such low acceptance rates?
btw it’s not surprising to me that UCI is very selective, in fact, their admission stats are lot more similar to UCSD than UCD or UCSB.</p>

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<p>For many years, Irvine was viewed as a backup and still is for many students. But more and more students have been picking it as their first choice. This is reflected in the biggest drop in acceptance rates amongst all the UCs. Back in 2005, UCI’s acceptance rate was about 60% and now it is 42%. (to give a comparison, UCD was also about 60% in 2005 and is now at 46%, and UCSD was 42% in 2005 and is now at 38%).</p>

<p>Obviously acceptance rate isnt the only factor when ranking schools, but it is a big factor as a previous OP stated. The top ivy’s acceptance rate is in the high single digits low teens, so their is obviously a correlation.</p>

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<p>^ yea i agree with la_demolition</p>

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<p>btw it’s not surprising to me that UCI is very selective, in fact, their admission stats are lot more similar to UCSD than UCD or UCSB.</p>

<p>Nope. Their admission stats are “more similar” to UCD and UCSB. By the way, here are the enrolled statistics for the class of Fall 2008:</p>

<p>School|Mean Capped GPA|Total SAT reasoning score</p>

<p>UCD: 3.79, 1743
UCI: 3.82, 1743
UCSB: 3.79, 1766
UCSD: 3.94, 1864</p>

<p>UCSD is way ahead of the mid tier UCs when it comes to strength of enrolled students.</p>

<p>*This is reflected in the biggest drop in acceptance rates amongst all the UCs. *</p>

<p>Ah, but statistics can be deceiving. What you fail to mention is that due to the economy, Irvine cut it’s enrollment for it’s freshman class by 550 students this year. ([source](<a href=“http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/news/article/19314/]source[/url]”>http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/news/article/19314/)</a>). As a result, they’re forced to accept less students, but that was probably a bigger factor in the drop of admission rate than anything. When the economy recovers and the caps are recovered, the admission rate will go up again.</p>

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<p>rc251 what is your source for those numbers?</p>

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<p>The University of California StatFinder website:</p>

<p>[University</a> of California: StatFinder](<a href=“http://statfinder.ucop.edu/default.aspx]University”>http://statfinder.ucop.edu/default.aspx)</p>

<p>Click StatFinder Tab -> Undergraduate admissions rates and counts by applicant term -> Freshmen, entered from high school -> Fall/All Years -> All Applicants -> Universitywide & All Campuses -> Average characteristics (means) for applicants, admits and enrollees -> </p>

<p>Then select either “High school GPA-weighted, capped” or “Total SAT Reasoning score” and run a Totals only table on either statistic. You’ll get the same results as me for Fall 2008.</p>

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<p>What I do notice is that the difference between acceptance rate at UCSD and UCI (probably along with the other UC’s, too) has dropped precipitously.</p>

<p>2000 2001 2005 2006 2008 2009</p>

<p>UCSD: 37.9, 43, 42, 45.7, 42.5, 41.7, 38.
UCI:56.3, 59.5, 60.3, 59.1, 55.6, 49, 42.8</p>

<p>Difference: 18.4, 16.5, 18.3, 13.4, 13.1, 7.3, 4.8</p>

<p>And, no, this decrease in the difference between acceptance rates cannot be attributed to enrollment changes due to the budget, because UCSD decreased their enrollment by a similar amount this year.</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/news/article/19314/[/url]”>http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/news/article/19314/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>^UCSD also had a drop in applicants while UCI had a gain. Also, it’s hard to predict trends anyway. For example, here’s a chart I mad a few days ago:</p>

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<p>The gap between UCSD has widened and narrowed many times in the past, there hasn’t really been a consistent trend.</p>

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<p>right.
So what? that’s how acceptance rates change. A school becomes more popular so many applicants apply, and thus the acceptance rate changes. Either that or more matriculate. More applicants is the sign of a school’s growing popularity.</p>

<p>And by the way, the change in applicants was very slight, like less than a thousand applicants.</p>

<p>Edit: that chart demonstrates the point. Before the two acceptance rates have never really been that close. Now they’re 4% apart.</p>

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<p>Well that’s my point too :slight_smile: Amount of applicants fluctuates a lot too. What happens if a lot people people apply to UCSD next year while less apply to UCI? All of a sudden the gap will widen again.</p>

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<p>Of course there will be some variations from one year to the next. But overall trend of UCI is that the acceptance rate is reaching that of UCSD as well as the number of applications. Wouldn’t surprise me if UCI has a lower acceptance rate than UCSD in one to three years.</p>

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<p>rc251- the data for fall 2008 is not shown on that website.</p>

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<p>actually rc251 those numbers are way off from the actual SAT scores from Fall 2008 (I was thinking they were too low).
Here’s the real freshman admit profile, which even includes the stats for Fall 2009.
<a href=“http://www.ucop.edu/news/factsheets/2009/freshman_admit_profile_2009.pdf[/url]”>http://www.ucop.edu/news/factsheets/2009/freshman_admit_profile_2009.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;