If a U does accept the predator, it would increase the school’s liability for any future crimes committed by this criminal. Have not read that he ever expressed remorse to the victim, ever.
I’m shaking my head over this one. Where’s the remorse that contributed to the reduced sentence?
@yoyohi, watch “The Hunting Ground”, a documentary about sexual assault on college campuses. Then come back and say that.
@intparent i personally know someone who was expelled because of sexual assault, and he has never been invited back to the college.
Police report:
https://assets.■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■/documents/1532973/complaint-brock-turner.pdf
261(a)(3) Rape of intoxicated person
261(a)(4) Rape of unconscious person
220(a)(1) Assault with intent to rape
289(d) Sexual penetration of unconscious person
289(e) Sexual penetration of intoxicated person
Crimes and punishments are described at http://leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/calawquery?codesection=pen&codebody=&hits=20 .
Other news reports indicate that the first two charges were dropped. Turner was convicted of the other three.
The law specifies sentencing guidelines of:
220(a)(1): 2, 4, or 6 years in prison
289(d): 3, 6, or 8 years in prison
289(e): 3, 6, or 8 years in prison
If the sentence were selected from those given above, the maximum would be 22 years (highest sentences served consecutively), and the minimum would be 3 years (lowest sentences served concurrently).
The sentence of 6 months in jail and 3 years probation is below the low end of the sentencing guidelines specified in state law.
Santa Clara County demographics:
http://www.census.gov/quickfacts/table/HSG030210/06085
^^Thank you so much for that information
I’m not a criminal lawyer (I’m a civil trial attorney whose current practice area involves federal, not state, law), so take this with a grain of salt, but the probation period is part of the sentence. So in looking at the determinate sentencing periods in the statute that @ucbalumnus cites, you have to consider the whole sentence, which here, apparently, was at least 3.5 years.
And in looking at whether the judge complied with the sentencing terms in the statute, you can’t just look at a single statute; you have to look at the whole statutory scheme for sentencing, including the portions of the penal code and rules of court that concern probation and suspended sentences.
It is sad commentary on society when some can rationalize such a lenient sentence for such a brutal crime!
I can confirm that the jail + probation in our local jurisdiction also when making a determination. I asked a judge friend yesterday.
“Cuz guess what… I bet Stanford will eventually let him back in.”
No way. He’s a felon and a sex offender. It’s not a close case and the facts are not in doubt. The case got tons of national publicity. It would be a giant waste of time for him to even try to get back in. As long as he’s on a sex offender registry, he can’t be on most campuses, period, because they have minor students. He couldn’t even work in the kitchen.
Come on guys. Cut @momofthreeboys some slack. Google searches on his name will be forever tainted. He’ll never get to fulfill his dream of being a swimmer. He has lost his scholarship. He was a talented young man and had his whole life ahead of him. Now that’s gone. Isn’t that punishment enough?!
In all seriousness, cases like these just make me ache so deep within. Because not only do I have this pain for the victim, but I have this frustration for a system that allows this to happen.
Remember the case with the heir to the du Pont fortune? Found guilty of raping his three-year old daughter and he got probation because he wouldn’t “fare well” in prison. So he gets to live his luxury life with his millions of dollars on hand. And that judge was a woman!
So even when it isn’t a privileged male feeling for another privileged male, it can be a dingbat judge who feels for the poor little rich boy. I wish I knew what to do. I wish I knew how to make an impact and a difference. I just feel disgusted.
I think I have unconsciously blocked that out of my memory because I completely forgot about that until now. Ugh…
@CaliCash I feel the same. Just disgusted. Probably even more so because I just finished reading Missoula recently.
No, it is not enough.
Have you read the victim impact statement? The rape has had a huge impact on her life. She did not choose to be assaulted but will suffer those consequences for the rest of her life. Her job, her dreams, her family, her sense of safety are already affected. If you think the consequences for him are punishment enough, then she is suffering the same and much worse consequences. 6 months is not enough for what he did. He basically treated her like some blow up sex toy he could throw down on the ground behind a dumpster and do what he wanted to, not as a human being. And his only remorse is for how his life is affected.
Drink is no excuse. I know lots of people who have on occasion had too much to drink. Have some of them made bad decisions when drunk? Heck yes. I did a couple of stupid things myself in my youth when I had too much to drink. Luckily the consequences were usually embarrassment. I never assaulted anyone or even would have thought of it. If being drunk brings out the urge to rape someone, that darkness is already there in that person.
Oh. My. God. If you want to feel more disgusted, take a peek at the father’s comments. ^^ Apparently his son should not receive the harsh punishment of 6 months for just “20 minutes of action.” Unbelievable!
IT’S RAPE.
HOW OUT OF TOUCH COULD ONE FAMILY BE?
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2016/06/05/3784913/stanford-sexual-assault-dad-letter/
@trojanchick99 Rape culture at its finest. I see the Apple doesn’t fall very far from the tree. I wonder if they have a daughter.
It’s obvious to me that neither the father nor the criminal have any idea or concern for the victim, which is appalling and tragic, considering it is the young man’s violent criminal actions that have changed her life forever.
Michele Dauber is a law professor at Stanford University. She is pressing Stanford University to provide resources and support for the survivor. Will be launching a petition soon. She is calling for Pesky to be recalled.
I don’t understand how the judge could impose such a light sentence. They caught this guy dead-to-rights, and there certainly isn’t any doubt that he’s guilty.
I guess Turner is getting a light sentence because he seems to be clean-cut, has a boyish appearance, is white, etc.
However, I can’t blame Turner’s parents for sticking by him. I don’t expect parents to be able to view these situations objectively.
On a personal note, we know two families whose kids are friends with the rapist. They are all quite sympathetic to the rapist. I spoke with one of the moms this weekend. No surprise, this case was a hot topic of conversation. This mom had lots of excuses for why Turner shouldn’t receive a harsh punishment. Just listening to her made me very angry. Fortunately, I had the good sense to leave the conversation quickly without saying what was on my mind.
Crazy. Just goes to show you how lots of people - even women - do not view rape as a serious crime.