@al2simon It’s not a serious crime for some, so long as it doesn’t happen to them or someone they care about.
On another note, I am yet to see his mugshot anywhere. Turner is a criminal after all, and yet he has been given the appearance of an innocent young man.
Yes, many don’t consider rape serious, UNLESS they or a loved one are the victim. That is why sentences are so light while the poor victim has to live with the physical and emotional scars forever. :(( X_X b-(
“However, I can’t blame Turner’s parents for sticking by him. I don’t expect parents to be able to view these situations objectively.”
Agreed. Most parents would do anything they could to keep their child out of prison. Protecting our children at any cost isn’t just part of being human – it’s part of being a mammal. The father’s note is the least of my concerns.
From post 136 - The father wrote: “Brock can do so many positive things as a contributor to society and is totally committed to educating college age students about the dangers of alcohol consumptions and sexual promiscuity.”
Can anyone believe that? Why do we need a rapist to educate college students? Why the father did not teach the son about respecting women first?
Why should he be talking about sexual promiscuity at all? What’s his expertise, other than a predatory rapist? Why should he even have access to students or campuses?
I just read the entire letter from the rapist’s father. Did anyone else pick up on how he blamed the dominant party culture at Stanford and the irresponsible drinking “modeled by the upperclassmen on the team”? Same defense as what the St. Paul’s rapist tried - it was the school culture.
I agree with Hanna that it’s human instinct to protect one’s child but this is making the dad sound delusional.
I think the father’s word “action” meant that 20 minutes of the 20 years. I don’t think, in this context, “action” meant “getting some.” However, if it did, I just threw up…even more.
I am still trying to process Dan Turner’s statement. When I read the “steep price to pay for 20 minutes of action” I interpreted it in the same manner as other posters. And I thought it was pretty appalling. I am hoping @dyiu13’s interpretation is the correct one, but I am not so sure. Why would he not offer a clarification and was his statement not reviewed by his attorney? Why would anyone put something like that out with the obvious connotations that are connected to that wording?
I think the victim delivered a very powerful statement that brought us as close as possible to understanding what it is like for a woman to be sexually assaulted. And Dan Turner is prattling on about Brock no longer wanting to eat a “rib eye” and how he doesn’t “hide snacks” any longer since Brock has no appetite?? Sorry, but I agree - this man is delusional.
“That is a steep price to pay for 20 minutes of action out of his 20 plus years of life.” Also, apparently being homesick means the rapist shouldn’t go to prison for his rape, according to his father. And shoving one’s fingers inside an unconscious woman is not violent.
I think I will vomit now. This doesn’t make the father sound delusional, or like a loving father-- it makes him sound like a repellent piece of garbage. The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. Suppose those upperclassmen swimmers had raped Brock Turner while he was unconscious. Would that be a tiny little misstep that didn’t deserve prison? Somehow I doubt it.
I can blame Turner’s parents considering the very manner of defending him and the heinous nature of the crime committed shows this father not only doesn’t get the severity of his son’s crime, but worse…is trivializing it and thus illustrating how much of a [sarcasm]good example[/sarcasm] he was to that son. Outrageous!!
Granted, part of my perspective comes from the fact one grandfather actually disowned and had the family avoid having any contact or even speaking the name of an older uncle merely because he was expelled from university back in China sometime in the 1920’s for partying too much and not devoting enough time/seriousness to his academic studies. His level of disappointment and outrage at the perceived disgraceful circumstances of my uncle’s college behavior was such that he never reconciled with my uncle even after he enrolled himself at Whampoa military academy, rose to a senior position in the Nationalist Chinese army, and died fighting the Japanese invaders in the war.
I am absolutely disgusted by this whole thing. 6 months in prison?? And the judge’s excuse was even worse. Yeah, more than 6 months would severely affect him, but he deserves it. He committed a felony and ruined a girl’s life.
Actually, this awful criminal affected a LOT of people, including the poor bicyclists who had to witness such evil and do what they could to help justice be served, everyone who cares about people treating others humanely, and the entire loving network of this wonderful young woman.
The father of this young man disgusts me, even if he didn’t mean what his statement sounds like. I find it brutally insensitive and uncaring of the woman and the findings of the jury.