<p>^Okay you have a ways to go. First of all it’s a fraternity. Get that down. As far as the ones you listed, Phi Psi is Phi Kappa Psi, SAE is Sigma Alpha Epsilon (off campus though so they won’t be listed on the university website), Pike is Phi Kappa Alpha, Fiji is Phi Gamma Delta, Psi U is Psi Upsilon, and SigEp is Sigma Phi Epsilon. You’re indian so (just being completely honest) that isn’t going to help you a ton, but I know a few indian kids in these fraternities so nothing’s impossible. Definitely start working out, I wouldn’t call it preppy clothes as much as just well dressed, brooks brothers, vineyard vines, polo type brands. Don’t just rush upper tier fraternities, if you are set on greek life (which I would highly recommend) try to get to know guys in a lot of different houses and rush a few that you feel fit you.</p>
<p>Just recently started going to a gym. Gotta get some more polo’s, preppy shorts, etc. Thanks for the insight, anything else?</p>
<p>Mr. Patel, it sounds like you are trying to be something you are not. Bad idea imo. This is just an outsiders opinion but frats probably care more about how attractive/how you act than just how you dress. Just be presentable.</p>
<p>Everything that “umichi” said was for the most part absolutely spot on except she failed to mention that tridelt is most definitely going down (their pledge class was worse than skrappas)</p>
<p>Theta is also REALLY going down hill… and ADpi girls are falling to pi phi level (the salvation army wardrobe of greek life). ADpi girls are also for the most part very detached especially after their embarrassing pregame situation (chi phi tried REALLY hard to get DG but failed, so they half assed a senerade for them. since their only other choice was shady, they picked them) </p>
<p>In good news however, houses like ChiO and apparently Zeta have really picked up. Zeta is actually being fought over by phi delt and DKE? haha good for those girls! Supposedly lots of DGs and Zetas are good friends.</p>
<p>Also for that one indian guy rushing I would recommend not limiting yourself to PhiPsi,Pike,FIJI,SigEp,PsiU. Actually I wouldn’t even rush Psi U cause one theyre mostly jewish and two cause theyre a mess right now since they might be losing their house next year… I would probably drop FIJI from that list too since I’m pretty sure practically everyone in FIJI is a white lax bro (back me up here anyone?) and unless your face screams sex I would drop Pike. That being said SigEp is probably your best shot and then I’d recommend DKE and maybe Chi Psi as backups. (forget about my list with Chi Phi that place is only going down hill). That all being said, rush is extremely competitive everywhere and make sure you keep that in mind. Guys aren’t guaranteed a spot somewhere like girls are.</p>
<p>best of luck everyone, stay classsy ;)</p>
<p>I don’t know if that’s necessarily true, even though it is a vast majority of white kids FIJI has always come across to me as more involved in philanthropy than the other top tier fraternities and I would assume to be more accepting of people from different backgrounds during rush, plus the division 1 lacrosse team really only hangs out with SAE.</p>
<p>Take what you hear with a grain of salt. The tiers “umichi” gave our basically correct however. Meet people and get to know brothers or sisters and that is the best way to determine what is right for you. Don’t be someone you aren’t, because you’ll end up in the wrong fraternity or sorority and not be happy. </p>
<p>To clear things up though, </p>
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<li><p>Theta got into trouble last year but are now fine. Yes they are jappy but there is a large silent majority that aren’t. Also, Theta’s pre game partner is still being decided but it could be Sig. Theta will must likely always be the hottest jewish sorority tho.</p></li>
<li><p>Tri-Delt got into trouble early in the year but are also good now. Their pledge class had some problems but are always fun and their house location is the best of any sorority. They were asked by Pike, AEPi, and SAE to be pre game partners. SAE wasn’t a possibility due to being off campus, and Pike asked Skrappa after AEPi went on ski trip with them. </p></li>
<li><p>IFC and Panhellenic Council is cracking down hard on frats and anyone (sororities) going to off campus fraternities (such as ZBT or SAE) and handing out Social Probations everywhere.</p></li>
<li><p>SDT is more jappy than Theta overall which can affect your choices if you’re considering them.</p></li>
<li><p>There is a noticeable divide among the non-Jewish scene and the Jewish scene. There will be non-jews in jewish fraternities and sororities and vice versa but it is just a matter of preference to who you like.</p></li>
<li><p>Psi U had problems but are relieving those issues and shouldn’t be kicked off (I believe they are gonna be with SDT for pre game). Their backyard is the best if you haven’t seen it.</p></li>
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<p>Finally DO NOT get caught up in a name. You join a fraternity or sorority to meet people and have fun and every one in greek life does that. There are also multicultural fraternities to join that aren’t as prominent on campus but are there. It all honestly depends on what you want. Remember for fraternities, there is usually winter rush though not as popular and not there for every fraternity, it allows you to get a view of everyone. </p>
<p>Good luck.</p>
<p>Psi U got 50 weeks of so pro at some point this semester. They’re really fu*ked. Also notable to mention, Phi Psi and SigEp are both getting new houses next year. I agree with people saying ADPi is moving down and Zeta is moving up. Tridelt also probably moving down a bit getting AEPi for pregame (+ kinda SAE but who knows). Panhel has really been a dick lately for sororities, Alpha Phi just got put on so pro and Chi O essentially didn’t have a second semester. Chi O had a good pc this year but their nationals are watching them closely after some hazing allegations, possibly could lose their charter depending on how mad their nationals are at 1. the hazing and 2. their pc this year only having three non-jewish girls even though they are not nationally jewish. Oh and Theta not having an official pregame partner next year could really hurt them and I’d be willing to put a lot of money down on them ending up on so pro pretty early next year because they’ll all go to ZBT or Sig to pregame.</p>
<p>Just wanted to post to say I see several things in the comments above that are simply not true. It’s also pretty easy to tell which house the people who post come from based on their descriptions of other sororities. In short, everything is going to be biased. I would advise you to try not to form opinions until you’re on campus and can meet the brothers in several houses. Guys in other fraternities will often talk **** about whatever other houses you tell them you’re rushing. Don’t listen to it, make your own opinions. The house that I joined was the one that took the biggest verbal beating before/during rush. And if you have to change how you act to fit in then you’re not in the right place. This is coming from a guy that’s in a tier 1 fraternity, and unlike the post that started this thread most people know that only three fraternities, not five, hold the tier 1 spot.</p>
<p>^sounds like srs business</p>
<p>Umichi is for the most part spot on except:</p>
<p>1.If Chi-O is supposedly Tier 2, so is DG. DG may be pre gaming with SigEp again, but hey if it isn’t broke why fix it? </p>
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<li>I would argue that AXO has replaced Kappa as a top tier sorority (Ask any girl who rushed there in 2011 and they were preffing at Alpha Phi and/or Tri Delt too) and if they haven’t already replaced them it’s in the works.</li>
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<p>Sure is single digit post count in here.</p>
<p>And in the spirit of this thread, make sure to chase all information with a grain a salt.</p>
<p>Do you HAVE to live in frat houses?</p>
<p>^Depends on the fraternity. Some make you for at least one year, others don’t.</p>
<p>My brother was a member of Delta Sigma Phi in the late 90s, I heard they have an underground chapter there? Is that true or just a rumor.</p>
<p>^Yeah it’s just called sig here because they got both kicked off campus and lost their national charter. Not very legitimate but they still get people to join so…</p>
<p>That is crazy that they can do that, thanks for the information. Anyone know what they were like when they were still a legitimate house? My brother told me some stuff. I was just curious, no way would I check them out now if they are not even a part of the greek community</p>
<p>How’s the hazing?</p>
<p>last summer, i poured upon rankings by rankings freaking out about rush. i freaked out that if i didn’t get the “best” sorority, my experience would be awful and not as fun. but, as a freshman in a top-tier sorority (with a best friend in a lower-tier sorority), i can honestly say that my experience and hers is NO different. in every sorority you will find girls that you love and hate, and you will hang out with boys that are attractive and not attractive, complete jerks and actual nice guys. i can honestly say that i would have been happy in any sorority. but my little sister (who is going to be a freshman next year, GO BLUE!!!) showed me this, and i really want to dispel some of the completely false and biased stereotyping made earlier. So i thought that an actual accurate, not biased way to give a general idea of greek life social circles would be through football pre game partners and the fraternities a sorority normally hangs out (“mixes”) with. </p>
<p>–1. to be honest, yes, there are two distinct spheres: the jewish sphere and the non-jewish sphere. there are definitely jewish people on both sides, and yes they all do hang out with each other, but there is a line, and because of that, it’s easier to break it down into two groups.</p>
<p>Not-Jewish Side:
–Tri-delt, alpha phi, kappa, axo, and skrappa all pretty much hang out with the same fraternities (theta chi, SAE, phi psi, pike, fiji, etc…). tri-delt, alpha phi, and kappa have always traditionally been known to be the “best 3” sororities who then switch pre game partners with each other every year with the "best 3 " fraternities (theta chi, sae, phi psi). skrappa and axo switch off between pike and fiji. but because SAE isn’t allowed to have a pre game partner this year, tri-delt has had to find someone else. (kappa will be with phi psi, alpha phi will be with theta chi, axo will be with fiji, and skrappa will be with pike). </p>
<p>–dg and adpi normally hang out with the same fraternities: sig ep, chi phi, phi delt, dke (and a lot of other small fraternities that didn’t have pregame partners last year). dg and adpi are always in competition, with dg’s rep probably better than adpi this year, and adpi a bit better in past years. but the differences in social schedule are extremely small. dg is known to be southern and sweet and is best friends with the boys of sig ep. adpi is known to be a bit more random, but will be with chi phi again this year. </p>
<p>–zeta, pi phi, and agd: zeta and pi phi normally mix with phi delt, dke, chi psi, and a lot of other smaller fraternities. to be honest, agd does have a worse rep than the other two, but they mix with smaller fraternities too, and were sigma pi’s pregame partner this year. i unfortunately don’t know enough about each of these three to make a clear distinction, but they are great girls in all of them.</p>
<p>so the rankings then would be:
- tridelt, alpha phi, kappa
- skrappa, axo
- dg, adpi
- zeta, pi phi
- agd</p>
<p>again, this is a completely objective, unbiased point of view. it is clear that the girl who made the descriptions of the girls in every sorority had a clear bias to one, which may have impacted her viewpoints a little bit. but, because i just did it by pregame partners, and not by false stereotyping, there is completely objectivity.</p>
<p>Jewish sphere:
–Theta: Theta hangs out with aepi, sig, and zbt the most. They have a very distinct personality on campus, which is why many fraternities either love them or hate them. this is why they probably had a problem finding a pregame partner this year after aepi went with tri-delt. but, next year, they will be with the off-campus frat: sig, instead. </p>
<p>–Chio/SDT: If ChiO wasn’t on social probation this semester (for an extremely stupid, undeserved reason), chio and sdt would have very similar social schedules: aepi, sig, zbt, psiu, and sammy. sdt might mix with aepi a bit more, and chio with sammy, but it would be pretty much the same. the reps between them too are constantly fluctuating, with chio most likely having a better rep this year, and sdt having a better rep the past years. but it is stupid, and the social schedules are extremely similar. chio has been with sammy for the past couple years and will be with them again, sdt the same with psiu.</p>
<p>–dphie: dphie has always been known to be considerably lower than the other 3, but they have really improved this year with their pledge class. even though they are a jewish sorority, they don’t really mix with the jewish fraternities, and have a social schedule more similar to adpi’s/zeta’s. last year they were with delta chi as pg partners, and next year they will be with chi psi.</p>
<p>–aephi: to be honest, i don’t know much about aephi. they have a very small pledge class (under 15), and a small sorority in general. they probably mix with fraternities the same size as them, and i’m pretty sure they were/will be with beta theta pi as pregame partners.</p>
<p>even though i talked about them in two separate spheres, there is definitely mixing between the two groups. theta chi, phi psi, sae, pike, fiji, aepi, psiu, zbt, sig, and sammy, and tridelt, kappa, alpha phi, axo, skrappa, theta, sdt, and chio all were all part of the huge broomball/darty (day party) tournament a couple months ago, and all pretty much hang out/mix with each together, albeit some more frequently than others (dg and adpi ended up playing about alpha phi and tridelt were disqualified). </p>
<p>and as i said, a million times, the rankings DO NOT MATTER AT ALL. the only difference between sororities is who you mix with, and i promise that you will find boys that are cool/not cool in every single fraternity. with such huge pledge classes, you are guaranteed to find girls you love, and girls you hate, and the stupid rush process tries to make you feel that the differences are so much huger than you are. i swear that you will be fine, and end up in a sorority you love. so just take a deep breathe, try to relax, and GO BLUE!!!</p>
<p>I am involved in michigan greeklife and michgreek makes a lot of good points. I just wanted to touch on the more popular houses on campus, and included off campus greeklife.</p>
<p>Best On Campus Houses:</p>
<p>Phi Kappa Psi (Phi Psi)</p>
<p>A solid group of guys, mix with the hottest girls on campus. They have a very bad house but are moving next year closer to Oxford (right next to ZBT). A well rounded group. Some girls complain all they do is watch them play beer pong at pre games. They throw one of the better football pre games on campus. </p>
<p>PIKE </p>
<p>Great house, great party room. The guys are cool for the most part, some of them can be real cocky at times. Mix with a nice array of girls and have a pretty middle of the road football pre game. They had a pretty nice st patricks day party with phi-psi. Pregaming with skrappa next year.</p>
<p>AEPI</p>
<p>The most jewish house on campus. Have an absolutely horrible house and bad location, but its probably because their pledge class sizes are so large. Have a bunch of good guys and a decent amount of outcasts as well. Do well with the jewish girls, and are pre game partners with tridelt next year. If your a jewish guy and want a bid with easy pledging do aepi. Used to have good football pre games, but their house on church is too small for the large number of people. If your jewish you’ll definitely be here during rush</p>
<p>FIJI</p>
<p>A nice well rounded group of guys. Pretty athletic. Hang out a lot with AXO and have a beautiful house across from pike. Barely haze if i recall. Known as the good guys on campus.</p>
<p>Sammy</p>
<p>Next door to pike. Pretty average on all fronts. Once again solid group of guys, hang out a lot with SDT and Chi-o. Hazing isn’t too bad. Pretty sure they are pre game partners with chi-o next year. Throw a mediocre football pre game.Have a nice group of guys, and are pretty chill.</p>
<p>Psi U </p>
<p>Traditionally known for throwing one of the better football pre games. May be in some deep **** with the IFC for violations and are on social probation for a long time. Usually pre game partners with sdt. Have one of the best house all around and host winterfest (one of the best days on campus in the winter). Know as a big drug frat. Half and half as far as religion goes. Wanna be theta chi is a good call.</p>
<p>Theta Chi</p>
<p>Another good on campus house. Big on drugs too. Hang out with a great variety of girls in addition to the hot ones. Pregaming with alpha phi next year. Perfect house location. Hazing is said to be not so easy. ALot of maryland, new york and coast kids. And will be on social probation for a LONG time.</p>
<p>There are a bunch other frats that umichgreek touched on that i don’t know too much about.</p>
<p>Best OFF Campus Houses:</p>
<p>SAE</p>
<p>Have the best house on campus, a very crazy group of guys. Hang out a lot with alpha phi and tridelt and really don’t care about anything. Kicked off campus for hazing and not returning anytime soon. Host mud bowl and have a pretty average football pre game. As of now they don’t have a pre game parter next year. Haze hard. Wont rejoin ifc anytime soon</p>
<p>ZBT</p>
<p>Live next to pike, and will be next to phipsi. Last year they probably had the best football pre game. Mostly jewish and have a lot of new york kids. Do well with the jewish girls and kappa. They threw a st. patricks day party at they house with SAE and AEPI and was without a doubt the craziest party of the year. Heard they pledge pretty hard too. May be rejoining campus next year? Or this this a rumor?</p>
<p>“SIG”</p>
<p>A social club and their house is so far away from everyone. Pretty jewish and a lot of new yorkers. Throw a big football pre game at brownstone too. Hang out a lot with the jewish girls. Wanna be ZBT is a good stereotype. They hang out a lot with aepi and zbt–if they had a closer house they would be better.</p>
<p>^^I disagree that Phi Psi has a “bad house”. There house now is way better (nicer and location-wise) then where they’re going to be next year. Numerous guys in the house have remarked that their house next year sucks, so it’s more of a downgrade than what you make it seem.
SAE will not rejoin the IFC anytime soon? They have already started having meetings with both IFC/Panhel to talk about rejoining.
And I’m not certain that Theta Chi is on social probation? If so it doesn’t phase them.</p>