<p>tennis craze=gdi who did not get a bid (except from tke)</p>
<p>I donât know, he plays tennisâŠI donât know any tennis players who wear black jortsâŠ</p>
<p>Urban Dictionary definition of GDI</p>
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<p>The big question is why does anyone care what somebody else does?</p>
<p>because people like tenniscraze who pretend to know everything scare away great kids from the greek system. There are many kids who come to school really not knowing much about the system at all. Sure theyâve seen movies, but they know movies are often fake, and so they come to school with an open mind about going greek. Then someone like tenniscraze who, while being very passionate, has no idea what heâs talking about, scares them away, and then we greeks have lost another potential member.</p>
<p>âAlso, tennis craze, the article said that the pledge would have had to drink about 20 shots of hard liquor, thatâs definitely not 40. I also hope you realize that lambda phi epsilon is an asian fraternity, which, at most campuses is NOT part of the interfraternity council and is thus not regulated as heavily. For this reason, multicultural fraternities and sororities are known at many campuses to haze much harder and longer than typical IFC fraternities and pan-hel sororities. Also, at my school, fraternity parties are heavily regulated (no mass distribution of liquor, beer check, sober monitors, etc), but I have been to several MGC (multicultural greek council) parties, and they are INSANE-ice bongs, jungle juice by the gallon, shots everywhere! (a lot of fun though). My point is that I think you are associating âfraternityâ and such animal house-type stereotypes to the old money white boy image, which it is definitely not.â</p>
<p>So youâre excluding some fraternities out of the system? How funny. Any other fraternity is capable of doing just as demonstrated by this asian one. It is still a fraternity after all for godâs sake.</p>
<p>so is the masons and the fraternal order of police and we arent including them in the conversation⊠you, sir, are a â â â â â â </p>
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<p>You know so little about the Greek system that you canât even distinguish how NIC/IFC differs from NPHC differs from NPC differs from locals, etc.</p>
<p>You must prove more than being âcapableâ of an act to condemn someone based upon it. Motive, Means, AND Opportunity. Not one of the three.</p>
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<p>Tenniscraze you still didnât get my point. No one is being excluded. The interfraternity council on most campuses is comprised of male, greek-letter organizations which have no specific race or culture affiliation. Yes, most of them are white, but many have minorities also. The Pan-Hellinic association is the same thing, but for sororities. African American fraternties and sororities belong to the National Panhelenic Council (NPHC). Other multicultural greek letter organizations are either independent of a council, or at some campuses, part of the multicultural greek council. Each governing body (IFC, PanHel, NPHC, MGC) has separate rules by which they govern. I have already explained the social policies at my school. The point Iâm trying to make is that you associate the âelitismâ of the old money fraternity system purely to hazing/illegal activities, when the very source you provided cited an incident from an MGC fraternity. Yes of course hazing incidents happen with IFC fraternities, but I think you need to expand your knowlege of the greek system before you make any more posts.</p>
<p>Iâd still like an explanation from tenniscraze as to why academic elitism is acceptable (admission policies at select universities) but social elitism (greek organization membership) is not. Can you say double standard? If you want to escape from elitism, go to a non-competitive community college.</p>
<p><a href=âhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl6i9wuvdQo[/url]â>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl6i9wuvdQo</a></p>
<p>You are an idiot. MadTV is rarely funny. USC=NOT FRAT and will get owned by Michigan in less than a week.</p>
<p>why does anyone care what he thinks?..it just shows that ur insecure</p>
<p>yes, greeks are insecure that incompetent people like tenniscraze will scare away great members. At most schools, there is never a need to go greek, and so if kids hear enough negative things about it, they wonât join when in fact joining would be one of the best decisions they ever made. If kids are fed these lies about how awful the greek system is, why would they ever take the risk of accepting a bid, or even going to rush events.</p>
<p>p.s. I love repeating myself not even 10 posts later.</p>
<p>constantillusions,</p>
<p>as a former treasurer of my fraternity, i am well aware of all the expenses that a fraternity incurs. i was simply giving a laymans response to waht dues goes towards (a house and parties). you canât have a house without insurance ;-).</p>
<p>believe me - money goes all over the place. social functions, mortgage, insurance, utilities, property taxes, fines (omg i think my term as treasurer saw about $7,000 of fines from nationals), dumbass national fraternity conferences, and other lovely things that you get hit up for. i wish it simply went towards âa house and parties.â</p>
<p>Ohohoh, Tenniscraze is at it again! I see Tenniscraze on these boards all day long posting horrible, negative things about basically everything. He is just one of those people who insists on disliking everything. He seems to absolutely refuse to be happy or enjoy himself on any level. Poor guy, he doesnât realize that attitude is everything!</p>
<p>Letâs go through a little âHighlights of Tenniscrazeâs Posting on CCâ, shall we?</p>
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Donât get into the Greek scene, because you might not necessarily be happy with the air of superficiality surrounding you. A lot of them even look like rednecks trying to be southern and conservative and all. </p>
<p>Also donât pledge a sorority if you donât want to lose your individuality. In the end, itâs not about popularity contests. Itâs about what you can bring out most as an individual.<a href=â%5Burl%5Dhttp://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?p=3372301#post3372301%5B/url%5Dâ>/quote</a></p>
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I go to University of Virginia, and people are so friendly here. However, I canât stand their conformist attitudes sometimes as people tend to be more conservative here. Even in the campus, people dress traditionally - and by that I mean polos, buttoned down shirts, pearls, and sundresses.</p>
<p>It kind of makes me sick most of the time. The greek population looks much bigger too, and that creates an atmosphere of segregation on campus. Compared to CA, there is less diversity here. It makes me miss California so much since people are less laid back here. Plus, thereâs nothing in Virginia except DC. And geographically below Charlottesville (where UVA is located) are all the hicky areas.<a href=â%5Burl%5Dhttp://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?p=3332597#post3332597%5B/url%5Dâ>/quote</a></p>
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but the girls, especially sorostitutes, are stuck-up and think theyâre all that in the school. the boys are nicer (most only to girls) anyway.<a href=â%5Burl%5Dhttp://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?p=3324537#post3324537%5B/url%5Dâ>/quote</a></p>
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a lot of the hot (plastic, superficial, sorostitutes) chiks all look the same. Donât be fooled by their similar looks.<a href=â%5Burl%5Dhttp://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?p=3296278#post3296278%5B/url%5Dâ>/quote</a></p>
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Frats and sorostities are so fake.<a href=â%5Burl%5Dhttp://talk.collegeconfidential.com/search.php?searchid=4885993&pp=10&page=9%5B/url%5Dâ>/quote</a></p>
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The âconservative garbageâ part is true. Do you know how many frat boys that have passed Madison Hall ridiculing us? I think itâs pretty stupid of them to be uneducated of this issue, let alone being aware of it.<a href=â%5Burl%5Dhttp://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?p=2638141#post2638141%5B/url%5Dâ>/quote</a>
(That thread about the Living Wage campaign, and anyone who has taken econ should know that a âliving wageâ is not economically viable and will actually create MORE unemployment, but thatâs a whole other issuesâŠ)</p>
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I also love:
- Being able to ridicule sororities in sundresses here! Itâs pretty awesome. And itâs even merrier to laugh at when they have pearls on them<a href=â%5Burl%5Dhttp://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=192662&page=2%5B/url%5Dâ>/quote</a>
(this was actually in a debate with yours truly.)</p>
<p>So, as you can see, Tenniscraze is a very bitter boy who has a hatred for the people he percieves to be weathier and more popular than he is. I have a feeling that he is very unpopular, nerdy, socially inept, and doesnât have many friends, and therefore rejects those in the Greek system or the Greek style of dress before they can reject him. For someone so âintellectual,â Iâd hope heâd be able to see that people from all walks of lifeâyes, even those in pearls and designer jeansâcan be smart, friendly, and kind. In my opinion, sorority girls and frat boys at a place like UVa are the cream of the crop. Not only are they smart enough to attend a school like UVa, they are also socially astute enough to gain admission to a Greek organization, instead of stewing in their rooms being bitter and judgemental like Tenniscraze. And since 99% of success is being likable and forming relationships, which Tenniscraze seems entirely unable to do, seems to me that he will probably end up working under one of the frat boys he so despises.</p>
<p>well said.</p>
<p>By the way, Tenniscraze, if youâre going to try to reply to my post and defend yourself, save yourself the trouble and just answer this question:</p>
<p>WHY ARE YOU SO ANGRY? Why are you so bitter towards everyone involved in the Greek system that you judge them all instantly without meeting any of them? Upon what assumption or experience is this intense hatred based? I am really quite curious.</p>
<p>why do you assume that people who are not in the greek system are bitter. I agree with Tenniscrazes comments and I rushed a sorority. I have met people in the greek system and have seen friends change (for the worse) after becoming greek.</p>
<p>I just think that greek life is not for everyone. I donât think people have a negative view of you if you are not in one. However, they will have a negative view of you if you look down on fraternities and sororities, because in fact, people who do so are acting in the same pretentious manner that they supposedly despiseâŠ</p>