Free, clean, and constant energy. Is it possible?

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<p>Apparently, a company might have just accomplished the task:
<a href=“http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,1854305,00.html[/url]”>Scientists flock to test 'free energy' discovery | Science | The Guardian;

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<p>Not really clean energy but…some scientist at UIUC just finalized how to turn pig manure into oil. Just another step on the long road…</p>

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<p>Read about this the other day…</p>

<p>The Science blog in the Houston Chronicle: </p>

<p><a href=“http://blogs.chron.com/sciguy/archives/2006/08/free_energy_to.html[/url]”>http://blogs.chron.com/sciguy/archives/2006/08/free_energy_to.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>The writer wonders why the Irish company didn’t patent this…</p>

<p>Of the comments to this blog, someone quoted P.J. O’Rourke: “God knew the Celts were the only people who could get drunk enough to try to burn mud.”</p>

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<p>cleaner energy
[windpower](<a href=“http://www.rnp.org/default.html”>http://www.rnp.org/default.html&lt;/a&gt;)</p>

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<p>Sounds sketchy to me, as it would be in direct violation of the First Law of Thermodynamics. I mean sure, it <em>might</em> be possible to prove energy can be created, it always technically is, but extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and this doesn’t quite sound like that.</p>

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<p>Less expensive, clean, abundent is more realistic.</p>

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<p>Guys… I think you are missing the point here. Read the article I posted and give an opinion about whether they actually contradicted the first law of thermodynamics.</p>

<p>Edit: Thank you, stargirl. You understand.</p>

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<p>Either they are wrong or the First Law is. My money is on the First Law winning.</p>

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<p>OK, sounds like a PMM machine concept to me (perpetual motion machine) using a magnetic motor.</p>

<p>Here are at least two possible problems:</p>

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<li><p>Magnetic motors tend to produce not sinusoidal currents, but very spiky outputs. These spikes fool typical voltage and current meters into producing the highest value output (at the spike) vs. the true power output, which is the area under the power output curve.</p></li>
<li><p>Magnetic interaction to produce current actually produces a phase shift in the fluctuations in the current and voltage. Simply put, it means that the current and the voltage are not in sync, and that the power calculation is not simply voltage times current (P=IV), but is reduced by the phase shift: P=IVcos(x) where x is the phase shift angle.</p></li>
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<p>Measuring the voltage and the current separately in a magnetic motor system yields the maximum voltage and the maximum current, but since these are not synchronized, the maximum power is not the product of the two. If you did measure these and multiplied, you could get power outputs as high as 120% efficiency.</p>

<p>The proof is in carefully monitoring energy in and energy out (for example, is there a battery that is supposedly recharged by the system as it creates current?). Energy is not created by multiplications, but by actually powering a device and showing more TOTAL energy out than TOTAL energy in.</p>

<p>Sorry, but The First Law holds.</p>