<p>If, as you say, we should all “Look at your own party, for God’s sake”, should I then assume that you are a Republican yourself, qualifying you–by your own terms-- to call the current president an “empty-suit, war-mongering, evil cretin”?</p>
<p>I think it fine that you express yourself, even in your rather colorful fashion; I 'm simply trying to ascertain whether or not your advice is directed to all, or more precisely, those other than your self: “Look at your own party, for God’s sake.”</p>
<p>I’m still not sure of your point. But, no, I’m not a Republican. I have friends and family members who are such people, but not myself. It doesn’t take a Democrat or even an independent to see what a train-wreck we have in the White House these days.</p>
<p>I passed out flyers for Joe Biden in 1974 when I was a senior in High School. On the election night a bus was hired to take a whole bunch of us kids to Wilmington to the election night celebration. I still remember when they said he won and how we all cheered. I met him a couple of times and he seemed like a nice guy. I usually agree with his point of view, and while I don’t know about his Presidential chances, he’s better then some of the others out there.</p>
<p>I admit- I have been more involved with local politics- to pay much attention to Biden, but let me know when Arnold Vinick shows up for the coffee klatch ;)</p>
<p>Biden’s plagiarism of the “because they had a platform to stand on” speech probably had a greater impact on his presidential campaign than would have otherwise been the case because of an incident when he was in law school where he was given a failing grade because he turned in a paper that included a lengthy passage from a published work that he “careless” failed to include in quotations, or identify in a footnote.</p>
<p>He’s always struck me as a verbose, intellectual lightweight, with a tragically inflated sense of his own talents. I cringe a bit when I hear the questions he puts to nominees on the judiciary committee. His party (and mine) has better candidates for the presidency.</p>
<p>“verbose, intellectual lightweight, with a tragically inflated sense of his own talents” pretty well sums up at least the last two Democratic candidates - who would you say is on the Democratic bench that overcomes these deficits and has a real shot at the nomination?</p>
<p>Not an apologist here, although as I stated earlier I admire Joe Biden for certain aspects of how he has conducted his life, but if we’re going to continue to discuss the plagiarism in a factual way, let’s include more of the story. The incident when he was in law school was caused because he didn’t use the multiple citations required for the appropriate standards for legal briefs, using simply one footnote. His law school and the bar both cleared him of any plagiarism charges.</p>
<p>““verbose, intellectual lightweight, with a tragically inflated sense of his own talents” pretty well sums up at least the last two Democratic candidates - who would you say is on the Democratic bench that overcomes these deficits and has a real shot at the nomination?”</p>
<p>FF, can I answer even though I’m not a dem and won’t vote for one? I don’t think the above description applies to my own Sentor Clinton. She has her own issues for sure, but they aren’t the same as Biden’s. Which is why we have to take her very seriously. Says one who has watched her campaign up close and personal and knows that the woman is a very hard worker and no intellectual lightweight. As far as Biden is concerned, I hate to sound flip here, but he is so darn unlikeable as to be unelectable.</p>
<p>Biden included five pages of a law review article, verbatim, and acknowledged it with a single footnote. </p>
<p>Spin it however you like, but a single footnote is hardly enough of a fig leaf to cover that brazen an act of plagiarism. </p>
<p>The spector of a sitting senator subsequently prevailing upon his state bar to “exonerate” him two decades after the fact doesn’t improve my estimation of the man, I’m afraid. And his university’s decision to award him an F for the course rather than suspending him is more redolant of prosecutorial discretion than exoneration.</p>
<p>ff, you describing our current fartng president right? the neck massaging, flatculating, can’t put his own words together, didnt know that there were different factions in Iraq, and thinks that the war is going swell, who spends ore time on vacation then any president in recent history, who just yesterday was thrilled that the beaches in the south were clean while basicall ignoring the people still living in moldy, toxic trailers who said that those with connections, ie republicans get the help they need, him, right!! </p>
<p>“Intellectual lightweight” pretty much sums up our current President, as well. I disagree on your assessment of Gore–he certainly had his own assortment of problems and personal failings, but lack of intellect was not one of them.</p>
<p>Hindoo posted: I disagree on your assessment of Gore–he certainly had his own assortment of problems and personal failings, but lack of intellect was not one of them"</p>
<p>Really? What would make you say that? I’ve never seen evidence of Gore’s intellectual superiority. Certainly not his college grades, certainly not his political savvy.</p>
<p>“Intellectual lightweight” pretty much sums up our current President, as well."</p>
<p>Wild overestimate. Perhaps we can replace him with one of those scheming adulterous, stock-manipulating, wife deserters with a little more between the ears. ;)</p>
<p>anitaw,
Re: your query in #28, as the OP, I’ll be happy to explain the reference: It was a good-natured tweak at some of my regular sparring partners here. That’s all.</p>
<p>There was something that tickled me about those three women (who no doubt think our current president is an idiot–see, for example, post #34, above, as well as #39, below) grinning and getting googly-eyed over a presidential aspirant who says things like this when questioning a Supreme Court candidate before the senate judiciary committee:
I think Greybeard has it about right in assessing the senator.</p>
<p>Citygirlsmom: Don’t you find it ironic anyone could have the audacity to put down the intelligence of Bush’s political opponents? Or to rehash Biden’s college “plagiarism” from nearly 50 years ago? Considering that their President’s own shameful, underachieving frat-boy exploits at Yale and later, with drugs, disturbing the peace, and drunken driving don’t exactly make him a paragon of virtue. Nor does opening the gates of Hell in Iraq for no good reason make him an admirable man.</p>
<p>Mini posted: “Wild overestimate. Perhaps we can replace him with one of those scheming adulterous, stock-manipulating, wife deserters with a little more between the ears.”
You mean Newt Gingrich?</p>