<p>Sorry, couldn’t resist. Just this mental image that I have. (Guess that might be a CC daughter in that pic, too).
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<p>Its hard to believe that he thinks he has a crack at the Presidency. Wasn’t he embroiled in some sort of plagiarising issue awhile back? (or is that something that the big bad Republicans made up about him!)</p>
<p>He plagiarized Neil Kinnock (a British politician) in one of his speeches. Cost him the 1988 presidential primary. I always mention Biden to my students on the first day of classes (which happens to be today), when I give them my spiel on plagiarism.</p>
<p>I also think that Biden loves the sound of his own voice too much (have heard him speak).</p>
<p>And smiling his whitened teeth while admiring his “natural” tan.</p>
<p>Sincerity thy name is Biden!</p>
<p>When CC turned into a political forum I’m not quite sure–but I see someone is so concerned that a smart, knowledgeable, innovative, and progressive leader might actually get a shot at the presidency that they decided they had to bash him first chance they get. </p>
<p>Yeah, he commited plagiarism one time long ago. I suppose you are all saints, huh? </p>
<p>If this is the worst thing you can say about him, then I guess it should be an indication that maybe he has more on the ball than his opponents will admit. </p>
<p>Go read some of the stuff he writes about how the war in Iraq should be handled–or go watch the hearing with the gigantic oil companies where in five minutes time he had every single one of them admitting that they took advantage of a loophole in the law to get a tax break that they obviously didn’t need. They tell me who the “smartest guy in the room” is. </p>
<p>To me, that’s the kind of person I’d like to see as president–not some moronic daddy’s boy–or a divisive feminist who skates in on the coattails of her husband. (Sorry–did I just mention both our current President and current Democratic front-runner as almost equally poor.) I guess the truth of our election process is pretty sad;–when celebrity counts for so much more than actual knowledge and results. This explains why the media cares more about Paris Hilton than they do about our foreign policy or economic issues. I wish some of these people would go back to school.</p>
<p>No, we’re not all saints. But we’re not all running for the presidency, either. I have met him in the flesh and did not find him impressive. I wish I did, but can’t change my opinion just because he decided to run for president on a Democratic ticket.</p>
<p>Is Paris Hilton running for president? What has she got to do with Biden or whether he is intelligent, well informed, or ethical?</p>
<p>guess driver has nothing better to do then try and call names, but I am not enbarrassed to be a lefty, a liberal, nor a progressive</p>
<p>guess driver has nothing to do but try and rile some feathers by doing what she thinks in her clever little pathetic way, names</p>
<p>ah, driver, guess the war, the economy, nothing much going your way, eh…</p>
<p>That picture IS somewhat disturbing. The women could certainly be CC posters, mothers and daughter; they look like nice, intelligent (Iowan) people. Biden looks like he was photoshopped in from a different movie.</p>
<p>I’m with marite. I don’t see the appeal of Biden, to lefties or anyone else. If I thought he was really “smart, knowledgeable, innovative, and progressive” I might feel differently. I think his highest and best use is as a Democratic senator who can get re-elected. Long-term senators don’t have a great record as Presidential candidates anyway, from either party. People seem to suspect that the skill sets are not the same, unless maybe you were Lyndon Johnson (and Joe Biden is no Lyndon Johnson). Scoring cheap points at a hearing you control is not the same as figuring out how to deal with Iraq, Iran, North Korea, Israel, and Texas at the same time.</p>
<p>I could get into the idea of Paris Hilton as Prez. It would sure raise the intellectual level at the White House by a good bit. But she might need a little more “seasoning”.</p>
<p>I’ve heard flip flops are the shoe of choice at the WH.</p>
<p>For those of you attacking Biden–yes, he’s had his problems, including a relatively minor plagerism issue nearly 20 years ago. Yes, he should have been soundly and properly horse-whipped for that, and he was. Now can we move on? He’s articulate and highly intelligent, the polar opposite of the empty-suit, war-mongering, evil cretin we have as president these days. I wouldn’t vote for Biden, Hillary (or even Paris Hilton) for the top job, but I’m sick to death of the snide right-wing remarks about decent people. Look at your own party, for God’s sake.</p>
<p>They’re teflon Hindoo (although maybe not the prison jumpsuits, FS). They are masterful at deflecting…wars, deception, tanking economy, deficits, no decent domestic policy agenda…nothing to see here, moving right along.</p>
<p>I don’t know about teflon, Allmusic. I do know that political types of both parties tend to repulse me. Some worse than others.</p>
<p>Joe Biden may not be impressive in person, but who is? Certainly not our current English-challenged president. Or Hillary Clinton, who has pretended to be a Republican for the past year. Or John McCain, who has jumped into bed with the religious right. Or Newt Gingrich, who is contemplating a run for president after abandoning his ex-wife who was dying of cancer. (I’ll take plagerism, thankf you.) Or proven loser John Kerry.
In the world of politics, who really IS impressive? Other than Barak Obama, who has no shot at the presidency in the lifetime of anyone over 50.</p>
<p>I met Joe Biden when I was in college and he had recently become Senator. A relative of his was a family friend and I had seen him on several occasions. On that particular day, I got to talk to him for about an hour in an informal setting and was very impressed with him. He was interesting, kind, and passionate about politics. It was shortly after his wife and baby were killed, and his two young sons were badly injured in that horrific accident. Through the years I’ve listened to the criticism and have tended to give him the benefit of the doubt knowing what he’d been through and what he went through for years with his son’s recovery and commuting to D.C. to work.</p>
<p>If we’re going to tell the plagiarism story, I think it should be explained in full. Yes, he did adapt Neil Kinnock’s words into his own speech, and yes, he gave that speech on several occasions, during every one of which he credited Kinnock, except for the very last one, which happened to be in Iowa during the primary. An aide to Dukakis jumped on it, and distributed the tape in an obvious effort to discredit Joe Biden, and although Dukakis fired that aide and issued an apology, it came too late.</p>
<p>So, whether or not he’ll be a presidential candidate for 2008 is debatable, but the accusations against him regarding the plagiarism should really be left out of the discussion.</p>
<p>Thanks, Alwaysamom, for your response regarding Joe Biden. I’m not a huge Biden fan, but I’m sick to death of the nasty comments being made about him. I never met the man in person, but have been impressed with his articulate commentary over the past couple of years. Yes, we can shallowly dissect him and make fun of his tan or manner of speaking, without actually listening to what he says. When you hear what the man is saying, he’s quite smart and thoughtful, which is more than can be said for many political figures today. …</p>
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<p>Well, I’m looking, that’'s why I’m looking at Biden. I made no comparisons, just gave my impression, based on direct experience as well as following the news.</p>
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or, are you a member of both parties?</p>
<p>[edit: seriously, it will not be the Republicans that defeat him. Don’t worry about what they say…for good or bad, he won’t get that far.]</p>
<p>I’m not sure what you’re asking.</p>