Gameday - deplorable behavior in the stands

We attended an NFL game this week. We have had season tickets for 30 years. Early in the game, a group of guys (5-6) directly behind us got into it with 3 young guys in front of us who were fans of the opposing team. One of the guys behind us is a jerk around our age who is a regular. The others were young guys I didn’t recognize. As the game went on, things got progressively worse, with the guys behind us yelling a near constant stream of obscenities at the guys in front. To their credit, the guys in front were fairly restrained in their comebacks.

In the middle of the third quarter I left our seats and found a security guy, who followed me back and got them all to tone it down a little bit. I have never seen such deplorable behavior there or at any such public event. In fact, I don’t know that I’ve ever seen such deplorable behavior ANYWHERE. There were people around us with boys probably as young as 10, and numerous women, including myself.

I’m thinking about calling the stadium office to relate this experience, but I’m not entirely sure which seat numbers were involved, or what exactly I would want to achieve other than voicing my complaint. It certainly made our (expensive) experience decidedly unpleasant. If it happens again, I will attempt to capture some of it on my cell, and would certainly call then to complain.

We’ve been to several NFL games in Buffalo and no longer go because of the atrocious behavior of many of the fans there. By the time the game starts, they are drunk from tailgating for several hours prior to the game. Why NFL teams allow, let alone encourage, this is beyond me. The fact that these idiots are on the roads after the game driving home is appalling.

I should say that we have season tickets for NHL and NBA, as well as MLB and have never seen anything at even one of those games even approaching the nonsense we have seen at NFL games.

Fan 1: orders fourth beer
Fan 2: orders fifth beer
Fan 1: “My sports team is better than your sports team!”
Fan 2: “No, my sports team is better than your sports team!”
Fan 1: “You’re dumb!”
Fan 2: “You’re stupid!”
Fan 1: “Let’s fight!”
Fan 2: “Let’s do this!”

two hours later

Fan 1; “Mom, can you bail me out of jail again?”
Fan 2: “Dad, can you bail me out of jail again?”

I’ll stay home and watch from my couch, thanks.

We quit going to Dolphins games years ago for similar reasons. It’s a very expensive way to be exposed to filth.

There is far too much bad behaviour at NFL games. If you take a youngster, you’re taking a risk that you might want to reconsider.

A great deal of it is the result of drinking in the parking lot for 3+ hours before the game.

I like the view from the couch on a 65" HDTV.

Been to two red sox yankee games where I had to leave due to fighting and beer being thrown around. Too much drinking at sport games IMO. Or at least too many people getting drunk and belligerent at these games. As mentioned above, much rather watch the games from home…

I sadly have to agree with this. The games have gone from being going to watch your team play, into an all day event that usually features a lot of drinking by a bunch of people who likely are boors when they are sober, and turn into complete Delta Bravos when they are drunk. While I don’t tailgate (since it is generally my son and myself only), I have in the past and it was fun.

It is one thing to razz opponent fans, or to yell things at the players on the field when they foul up, but there is nothing good natured in what I have seen, sadly (kind of depends where i am sitting, too, when I have had the more premium seats it tends to be a bit better). I was at a Jets game several years ago against Cincinnati, and there was a woman there who was a bengals fan with some friends, and the stuff that was being yelled at her was disgusting, it wasn’t ribbing or anything like it, it was a crude and foul as you would find on the internet in unmoderated chat rooms, to say the least. I was with some friends who are pretty big guys, and as a group we finally told the bozos to shut up (not so politely).

The worst, though, my son and I wemt to a Christmas eve game between the Giants and Jets, sitting in the upper upper level. I have been in ugly places, but to be honest it was one of the ugliest things I have seen, I am no prude, it wasn’t just the language, I am talking everything up to and including physical violence (my son pointed out something ironic, the game was on Christmas eve, and we saw a guy all bloodied up being led away by State cops, wearing the jacket of a well known Catholic prep school in NJ…I guess the irony was lost on him, about getting into a fight on all nights of the birthday of the person he supposedly follows). Near where we were sitting, there was a guy with his daughter, she was about 18 or so…some lout near us started heckling her, in front of her father, suggesting that any girl who roots for the jets must be a (fill in your favorite term for a woman being paid for sex, the foulest one probably comes close to what the lout said), and the father reacted as you would expect. I told my son that if the father threw the guy off the roof of the stadium, I would testify on his behalf, I was that pissed off at the lout’s behavior (any dad would behave that way if it was their daughter).

I think there always was some of this kind of behavior, but it has shifted from being about going to a football game for many people and enjoying that to turning it into an excuse to get drunk and act out. While being a Jets fan I can understand the impulse to want to drink after the game is done to erase the memory of all the bad play, foul ups and other things associated with the team’s play, but I don’t understand the mentality, and it makes going to the stadium a lot less fun and it seems like stadium security has been cut back to save money or they have been told to only act if it is ‘really bad’ .

It is especially weird to allow this kind of thing, when the NFL is seriously worried if fans are going to go to the games live, while TV revenue and such make up a lot of their revenue stream, playing in front of an empty stadium , besides the lost revenue from tickets and even more so, concessions and parking (game day parking for non season ticket holders is 50 bucks!), it looks like crap and the players don’t like it…not to mention that thanks to black out rules, the game wouldn’t be shown on TV, and that would mean the tv stations would have to likely rebate ad money back.

Given that there is less and less reason to go to the stadium, when you have large screen tv’s with HD picture and surround sound and all kinds of camera angles in the comfort of your own home, and given the cost of tickets, parking and for food at the stadium, this would be just one more reason not to go to games, and that should scare them. I would hate to think of them banning tailgating or serving beer at the stadium (for me, I don’t quite understand drinking beer at a football game, especially when it is cold), but I also hate to think that the jerks will ruin going to games for people. It is nice that these days I see young women going to games (by themselves, as fans), it was something you didn’t see in the past that much, and I would hate to have them not go because of the jerks making them feel uncomfortable and I would hate to see parents afraid to bring kids, that is the next generation.

I would love to see football shrivel and die, personally. As far as I’m concerned it’s like boxing: it is ethically unacceptable, given what we now know. If they find some way to deal with the head injury problem–and I don’t see how they can, unless they switch to flag football, which would probably happen when hell freezes over :slight_smile: --then I could live with its continued existence. B-)

We’ve been to Tigers games and Red Wings games. No professional basketball games but I’ve been to plenty of minor league games also, not even minor league hockey which has a pretty rough crowd. Nothing and I mean nothing compared to the Lions game we went to a couple of years ago.

In the stadium defense, they had signs up in the stadium to text them if we felt there was unruly behavior in the stands. Security didn’t mess around, they took out the unruly spectators right away. The people around us cheered!

We love football but won’t go to a game again I don’t think. Ford Field does have a family friendly section which I thought was nice.

Wish I knew why football was so unruly. I wonder if it’s because it’s on a weekend where people feel more free to drink to excess.

^Family friendly sections are the answer. Hopefully they get bigger and bigger until the “unfriendly” sections are gone.

It is only marginally better at big time college football stadiums. Between drunk students and even drunker alumni and other fans.

I’m pretty clueless about most sports besides tennis and soccer so ignorant question: Is tailgating predominately a football thing or do fans do this before other sporting events as well?

My D lives a few blocks from Wrigley Field. There will be plenty of rowdy, obnoxious behavior in the streets if the Cubs continue to advance!

Doschicos - I have only heard it in the context of football. I also have the impression that tailgating in the south is far more elaborate than in the north (where it’s some hot dogs and beer and potato chips on the back of someone’s SUV).

@dischicos:
I have only seen it at football, would be hard to tailgate at a basketball game in the arenas in cities, and baseball stadiums, at least in my area, don’t allow it, they don’t even open the parking areas until fairly close to the game time (usually a couple of hours), whereas for football games it is like 4 hours. I would love to see a tailgate at the US open, that would be interesting “Do you have any gray poupon?” lol

Yeah, the US Open is a piece of work in its own way with $25 glasses of champagne being sold and plenty of cocktails being consumed in souvenir cups. Although its nowhere near as bad as what is described here at NFL games, the crowd has gotten increasingly rowdier and you definitely see tipsy people.

@Consolation It wasn’t that long ago that there was talk about eliminating boxing. Now it looks civilized compared to UFC et al.

Last pro football game we went to was over 10 years ago with my son who was under 10 at the time. Some guy a few rows in front of us was tossed and it almost turned real nasty.

Goodness, Pizzagirl, you obviously haven’t been to our stadium - people put on spreads you would not believe. We had enough to feed an army at ours.

@TomSrOfBoston, I was actually surprised by the good behavior I witnessed at an Auburn University football game last October. It was a day game, which might have helped, but there was legally-sanctioned, rampant drunken tailgating all around the stadium. Everyone had to do their drinking before they got inside, because there was no beer served in the stadium, so I was expecting really trashy behavior. Instead, everyone was shockingly polite.

It wasn’t enough to make me a fan of football, but it was something to remark on. Made me feel a lot better about the outrageously expensive tickets.

@doschicos:
I was talking more about the level of tailgaiting at the US open, not behavior, more champagne and couroisier rather than beer and/or a snort from a flask)