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Right. Which is what I misread the prior post to have said. Having a terrible head and the pesky letters won’t stand still on the monitor!</p>
<p>I’m not sure that there are ever circumstances under which a program in NYC, once begun, will truly be eliminated.</p>
<p>^Parents who want certain special education, should pay for it. Parents are paying for piano lessons, sports and many other EC’s, and driver’s education, or maybe these also should be included on taxpayer dime? They are definitely very beneficial, there is no question about that. How about lessons about being polite and treating every person with respect? These will result in less crime, for sure, less killings. I mean we can go forever with that and every suggestion will be very beneficial, and if some locality voted to spend taxes on it, then it is OK as long as it is not coming from one big unlimited thing above.</p>
<p>I am happy to pay ( through donations & taxes) for teens to have access to health care, including contraception.
If their parents were able and willing to bear the whole cost, we likely wouldn’t be having this discussion.
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<p>^There is a website where anybody can pay more taxes if they wish so. I do not know why we are having these type of dicussions. Some people are saying that they are perfectly fine to pay millions more. Do they pay or they just say so? And if one is paying, why are they talking anyway. They pay on tehir own wish, end of story.</p>
<p>Frankly I do not know why some people’s contributions to a discussion consists of their commenting that they don’t have anything to contribute to the discussion because it doesnt apply to : them, their children, or anyone they know.
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<p>I’m not really opposed to the availability of the emergency contraception, but having had a kid go through a NYC public high school, I don’t believe that the opt out is a serious alternative. But that’s just me. I’m not philosophically opposed to emergency contraception, either, but I do think if the recipient is a teen (and I feel the same way about abortion – although I wouldn’t have supported it for one of my daughters in most cases), it’s important that someone makes sure she gets appropriate follow-up care and ensures there are no complications. It’s when something is done in a sneaky manner that a young woman could run into unnecessary trouble.</p>
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Wolverine, again I agree w/ you . but that bus left the station 40+ years ago.</p>
<p>PlanB is less of a tax burden than either the cost of an abortion or all the costs associated w/ teen pregnancy (and the possible addition of 18+ years of mother/child public assistance and Medicaid).</p>
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<p>In my opinion, it’s not a coincidence that over the last 40+ years our educational system in this country has continued to decline relative to many other developed nations. As schools drift farther away from their primary responsibility to educate and take on more roles as surrogate parents, the quality of the education the students are receiving has declined proportionately. The more resources, time, and money that a school system has to spend playing parent/social worker/doctor/etc. as opposed to educator, the more the end product suffers. Jack of all trades…master of none.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, too many people in this country are inherently lazy and will take any opportunity to pass along their responsibilities to anyone else they can find to do them. It’s a pathetic cop out.</p>
<p>It’s an interesting world–some diabetics under age 18 can’t test their own blood sugar outside of the school nurse’s supervision, hold onto their own asthma rescue inhaler & take it when needed (must be with school nurse), but in NY they have access to “free” condoms and “morning after” pills?</p>
<p>-some diabetics under age 18 can’t test their own blood sugar outside of the school nurse’s supervision</p>
<p>I guess it goes state by state. Let your reps know what you want.</p>
<p>§ 28A.210.330 Code in Wa.</p>
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<p>Being allowed to carry your rescue asthma inhaler also varies by state and even by school. Our kids were allowed to carry their inhalers from grade school (I personally got it cleared with their school nurse), but it varies.</p>
<p>Our neighbor had to get major endorsements from national leaders in diabetes to allow their D to be able to continue to test her own blood sugar, as she had been doing since age 3 when the new head school nurse changed the policy & almost caused said pupil to have a serious medical problem getting to the school nurse (who was very far from the student’s classroom) for her testing. They chose not to champion a change in the new school-wide policy for other diabetics, even though the thought the new policy was dangerous for diabetic students. Don’t have 1st hand knowledge of our state law but since that wasn’t raised by the family, assume it must have been silent on the subject.</p>
<p>Regarding aspirin (in thread title). Thank goodness your teen can’t take it- Reyes syndrome has been linked to it in this age group. There is a vast difference in kids bringing unknown legal/illegal drugs and a school nurse/other adult dispensing a known drug. How would the school know the “aspirin” was really that, and what if some friend got deathly ill from borrowing it…</p>
<p>^^^^I had the same thought when I saw the thread title with regard to Reyes syndrome, but figured it was beside the point, really.</p>
<p>I don’t see how the condom comment upthread figures into this discussion, at least in the context of inhalers, blood sugar testing, etc. It’s not a medication which has potential side effects like the morning after pill.</p>
<p>Makes a huge amount of sense to me. I totally agree with these two ideas and am very impressed by our NYC folks who have developed them.</p>
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Good question. How are they circumventing this rule? Does every NYC school have a nurse practitioner on-site to prescribe?</p>
<p>Prescriptions are needed for girls under 17.</p>
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[NYC</a> schools dispensing morning-after pill to girls - Businessweek](<a href=“Businessweek - Bloomberg”>Businessweek - Bloomberg)</p>
<p>No they do not. In fact, there have been struggles about having school nurses at all, in the last few years. However, this plan doesn’t yet apply to all schools, just a very few and to my observation, I respectfully think the DOE chose schools with very, very high poverty rates and lots of pathology.</p>
<p>franglish…Exactly which part makes sense to you? The use of finite school funding to provide services which are already available to these kids through a plethora of government programs (social services, free clinics, etc)? That every dollar spent on these duplicate programs is money that should be put towards actually educating the students? Impressed by NYC’s Department of Redundancy Department? Really?</p>
<p>I don’t believe anyone on the thread knows where or whether the students in the pilot high schools can get Plan B for free. But assuming that it is possible to get them in theory, the point of programs like these is to make it as easy and simple as possible to get the pills in practice. </p>
<p>Kids who are bad at planning, don’t have their priorities in order, live in the moment, etc. are exactly the ones who are likely to need Plan B. (And exactly the ones who shouldn’t be having kids.) So realistically, is that population going to get on the internet, look up free family planning services, figure out how to get to Planned Parenthood on the bus, find a free afternoon to make the trip, and execute the plan within 24 hours of having unprotected sex? It just isn’t likely. But they may take a pill if they can get it at school.</p>
<p>It does sound like health care is provided free, however if ins is available it will be billed.</p>
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[School-Based</a> Health Center - School-Based Health Centers - New York City Department of Education](<a href=“http://schools.nyc.gov/Offices/Health/SBHC/SBHC.htm]School-Based”>http://schools.nyc.gov/Offices/Health/SBHC/SBHC.htm)</p>