But one would hope the guy is doing that already. I understand the traditional “he pays for dinner then expects at least a kiss and hopefully more”. But at least in the fairy tales, “princesses” typically don’t do more than kiss until they are married…
Honestly, some of the comments on this thread are setting women back 50 years. Oh wait, the Supreme Court has already done that.
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That depends on a girl if she wants to date guys who expect something for a meal
We told our D to always pay for herself.
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I did not just read this. 
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What I really wish we had on this thread was the ACTUAL voice and word of our 18-29 year old offspring - or others in that age group.
I have to say if my 26 year old is reading this there is SMOKE coming out of her ears and she is pounding out text on her keyboard. (ditto for her older brother and sister and their spouses).
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@beebee3 - I think you are correct. A lot of women look around and don’t want to be responsible for so much more than their share of the physical and emotional load. They want a partner who will do his share. A lot of women in our generation did that and ended up exhausted and resentful. The younger women are not wanting to do that and I don’t blame them.
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But is that more or less likely to be demonstrated by a guy paying for dinner on a date? Arguably less if the guy thinks their date is therefore accepting of (at least some) traditional gender roles?
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Gotta admit, I didn’t expect this post here.
I think it’s fine as long as both parties have the same expectations. If two people want a “trad wife / trad husband” relationship, more power to them. But that’s not how my wife and I are, nor is that how we raised either of our children.
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Boy did I miss this thread when it was originally was posted. Trying to catch up.
Early on we were talking about being friends with people who have different politic thoughts. These days if I find out that we don’t align politically I would prefer not to be around you.
I was lucky enough to meet my soulmate in college. She is a strong woman and we align politically and religiously. I could never imagine being with anyone else. We view our marriage and family as a team. We work together and rely and each other’s strengths, but really we are equals. Before kids came along we had a simple rule whoever got home first started dinner and now that we are empty nesters we do the same. I will say I have become more aware of the mental load and try to keep that as equal as possible as well.
We had two daughters and not surprisingly they have basically our same views on life. From day one I have always wanted them to be able to support themselves and not have to rely on another person. If they do find someone that would be great, but we are in no ways in any hurry for them to pair up.
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As long as he is at least 6’ tall, makes six figures, has a full head of hair and is physically fit. LOL!
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During my lifetime I have noticed that women, not men, are far more flexible about their partner’s appearance - especially as they age. On the other hand, many men - no matter their physical appearance and personality - seem to think they should be dating a Christie Brinkley clone.
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I feel like I’m living in an alternate world from some of you. My 23 year old and her 24 year old boyfriend split all costs equally when they are on a date or traveling. They both are full time working engineers. They both vote, are politically aligned with each other, and support each other emotionally.
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I don’t know any women with those requirements. Maybe we travel in different circles.
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It’s definitely a thing on social media amongst Gen Z/young Millennial women populations about men having the three 6’s…. 6 feet tall, 6 figures, and a 6 pack…. I have always assumed it may have come from a song??? Even in my Gen X time, I knew a lot of women who had height requirements to date a man.
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See @ChangeTheGame 's post above.
Some college girls have marks on the wall at 6’ because all men say they are 6’ on the app🤣
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It likely depends somewhat on whether the spouse’s political views have a practical effect on marital relations. A man who expects the wife to stay in the house may not be the best fit for a woman who wants to go into the House of Representatives. But some other political differences (particularly on topics not directly affecting the people involved) may not have much effect on marital relations.
This may have been addressed- but if the rule of 6 is for women to date in that age group- what is the rule for men?