There was also less of a chance of remaining unwillingly single then. It will be interesting to see how this plays out in the next 15 years, as the oldest Gen Z ages up.
My guess is that all political views moderate somewhat, and people compromise to have a partner.
I know plenty of middle-aged couples with different political views.
I really donāt know ā in earlier generations, I would say, yes, political views moderate with age (though mine certainly havenāt). Now? I donāt see anyoneās political views moderating, in any generation. I know a few couples with political views, but just a few ā and theyāre around my age or older. So I suppose weāll see what happens, but I think weāre in a very different political climate than we were 30 years ago.
But the thing is, itās really not a thing most of them will want to compromise on. Some people on this thread are looking at it like rooting for TeamsāI mean, S is a Mets fan and his partner is a Yankee fanāthey still love each other and find common ground elsewhere.
But these days, the differences are staggering. itās not just D or R, because the Republican party has pretty much been subsumed by one individualās wishes, and thus represents a set of āvaluesā which would be untenable for most women who lean progressive. That split is massive, but itās caused by the movement on one side, where thereās no centristic element that one could compromise with.
I think if movement toward compromise is necessary, it has to come from the āsideā that has leaned so far, such that at this point, one particular person, with no political position at the moment, is swaying what one party in Congress will do or not do (this is not my political opinion, they are very open about this).
Thus āliberalā or āprogressiveā or even just āleans blueā women canāt be expected to compromise with with such an extreme change in what āconservativeā or āRepublicanā means nowadays. I just donāt see how they canāwhich is a sad state of affairs for sure, but one that needs to correct itself, not be compromised with.
May be true. Then we should expect a lot of people who are unhappily single in the future.
Rather have unhappily single than miserably married.
Iām hoping that the fever will break.
I hope so too.
Actually, I am not sure that divorced is worse than unhappily single. I suppose it depends upon the person.
So you expect these āliberal/progressive/leans blueā women will compromise on traditional factors (wealth, education, height) before compromising on politics? Or just not compromise at all?
My guess is they will compromise on gender of the partner before they compromise on their political views as it was mentioned upstream. I see it more and more among women with strong leaning to one side of the political spectrum.
People on CC also claimed kids will stop applying to red state schools.
How many red state schools have seen a record amount of applications?
Are there really that many people who are flexible about the gender of their life partner?
Some, I suppose. But I donāt think many.
My point is that it is not āpoliticsāāit is values. Itās not what team you root for; it is what you believe is what matters in the world. People say āpoliticsā like a suit you put on. Itās not; itās what you are made of.
Um. I thought that was true for sexual orientation as wellā¦but you suggest it a a choice upon which one could compromise
I would think there are a few other things where compromise would not be as life-changing (height, wealth, education of a future partner) as sexual orientation
The percentage of young American women identifying as lesbian or bisexual has exploded in recent years. Will this change as they grow older? Nobody can know at this point.
I do think that particularly around the issue of abortion (and various forms of assisted reproduction, fertility treatments, and surrogacy), it is hard for me to imagine that romantic partners with extremely different values will be able to compromise. Particularly, if they end up with an unwanted/unexpected pregnancy or an unviable pregnancy (fetus that puts motherās life at risk or with severe abnormalities), I think the marriage is quite likely to end badly even if they initially felt that they could compromise on the issue. Certainly some couples are able to hold different views around reproductive health and get through a pregnancy crisis, but I think it was hard even before the recent court cases, legislation, and state referendums. With the legal changes and the ideological divisions via gender in recent years, I think it will be that much harder.
I donāt think there are that many young men who are so aggressively anti-abortion that it would matter-likely many donāt think about it at all, and those that do think it is not their problem.
As somebody who is married to a spouse with very different political views from mine, I donāt recommend it! I knew from the beginning our views were different but it was all centrist enough that it did not play a role. Eventually he moved more to the extreme and the 2016 election was not good for our marriage. Since weāve been together for a long time, have kids and with a lot of compromise, as well as him moving back more towards the center, we salvaged it. Donāt recommend!!
Not surprisingly, my daughter says she would never date somebody from the other party.
Yes, one example given above was educated ambitious but āmoderateā men, which I would assume means socially liberal/libertarian (or simply uninterested in issues like the environment and abortion) but fiscally conservative and therefore voting Republican.