I flew an upgrade on E+ to Europe and was very happy with the experience. To me, E+ was similar to a US domestic first-class seat in size and room. I loved the upgraded menu and the goodie bag with self-care items. I tried desperately to upgrade to E+ on the way back, but it was full. I sat in steerage a few rows back and stared enviously at E+ for the whole flight. Worth the extra money for me. After flying 12 hours home in economy, I don’t think I could do that again. I could maybe do 6-7 hours if it’s some place I really want to go.
On a different note, I purchased airfare to Africa on Delta around a month ago, and two days later, the fares jumped$2300 per person. I checked again yesterday, and the fares were back down to what they were when I purchased them. Weird.
Pricing models - they sold x at your price, see if they can sell for higher. They couldn’t, so it came back down.
Even with high fuel costs, they have to match demand.
My medical equipment for our trip ARRIVED this morning, just as we were going to head for our walk. Instead of going for the walk, I decided to unbox and test the medical equipment and so far it’s working as it should—thankfully (since we leave Wednesday & don’t have much time to swap things around any more).
I was also able to get to the FedEx by airport and drop off 4 boxes of medical equipment and send it back to my supplier. 3 of the machines need servicing and the other 2 just didn’t meet my needs. I’m SO GLAD to get that stuff out of our house and have a machine that appears to be working just fine (even if it is noisier than I’d prefer).
Don know if this has been posted in any of the other bajillion travel threads…
How do we feel about Delta ending drinks and snacks on any flights 350ish miles or less (probably hour-ish flights)? Except in first class.
No one will not buy a ticket bcuz of that. If it’s cheap or convenient, they won’t care.
My nearby airport is a Delta hub, and I have status. I do fly some shorter flights ( especially when I visit my S). It won’t change my travel plans. I’ll just have to fill up on the food in the Delta Lounge and/or hope for first class upgrades.
Sure I wasn’t saying that people won’t buy their ticket. Remember that not everybody isn’t a seasoned traveler or a well prepared traveler. A family traveling with young kids that is part of the plane entertainment that pack of cookies and drink! Let’s not put it on the passenger who is paying a fair bit more for ANY airline ticket these days….is this a cheap move by Delta?
I’ll add that many don’t have access to a delta lounge or any hope for an upgrade!
I wasn’t thinking of “us” so to speak - I’m talking those who may have circumstances where the plane ticket alone is the luxury.
It’s a cost saving move. Of course. 45 minute flight. Half the time those don’t have food anyway. The pilot has asked us to stay seated etc.
The best was once on Southwest on the ascent - they rolled soda cans down the aisle. Grab one or let it go. That’s how they distributed.
I guess it’s my tendency to think of those less fortunate . For who flying and buying an airline ticket even in basic is a luxury. Who maybe have a fear of flying and that routine of watching the crew do their refreshment routine is what helps get them through their flight. There are those people you know.
I definitely feel for the people who don’t fly frequently or are uncomfortable or are with young kids. So I’m glad that this is only for the shorter flights.
I did not mean to come across as insensitive. I’m in a more privileged position regarding this than many and I get that. And there were many , many years when i did not have the privilege I have now.
I was trying to convey that for me it will not influence my decisions to fly or which airline, but for others it might.
Also, I read that this decision was because of time constraints, but I do not believe that for a minute.
Yes, I read that Delta had previously stopped food & beverages for 250 or shorter flights and now 349 miles. I suspect other airlines will follow suit. Neighbor island flights in our state tend to be short (some <1 hours) and you barely are served before everything is collected for landing.
You did not come off insensitive.
I think I’m being overly sensitive!
If it’s a safety issue for airline staff I get it. Sometimes I just feel like flying unless you can afford the perks is getting to be like herding cows - just line em up and get them (eventually) where they need to be!
If by not having beverage service on shorter routes would make Delta more competitive, that would be a huge win for them.
I usually fly other airlines because Delta is consistently more expensive from my location.
The other airlines don’t have beverage service on those short flights either.
If a person can’t go an hour without a beverage and a cookie or pretzel, then that’s sad. It’s an hour.
I’m pretty sure that I can get a bottle of water if I ask a flight attendant on a short flight. There usually isn’t time to get beverage service done on such a short flight.
I don’t understand the snack hullabaloo. Some fliers already bring their own snacks onboard if they don’t think they can go an hour or so without eating, or because they don’t like those cookies that you get on AA, or the tiny bag of pretzels. Lots of fliers carry on Starbucks or entire to-go meals that they’ve purchased in the airport. I try not to drink on short flights because the bathrooms are gross. If you’ve flown around the interior of Europe, this is how their discount airlines work - the seats don’t even recline.
I just flew a direct flight across the country from SNA to CLT (@ 5 hours). Nothing but those dreadful cookies and a regular drink service for us steerage fliers. Somehow we persevered.
I read somewhere that Delta will be discontinuing drink and snack service on flights less than 350 miles. That sounds like a big nothing burger. People can survive for a short flight with no snacks or drinks.
We are returning home on the first of our 2 flights. I can’t recall if this is the thread (or therefore travel thread) where overseas health insurance was discussed, but we were chatting with some other passengers who were on a month long hiking trip in Spain and Portugal and he ended up in the hospital with food poisoning. They have the Geo blue insurance and said it was super easy. He was able to reach an agent who sent a confirmation certificate (the hospital was apparently a partner of some sort with geo blue and will hopefully get paid directly) and they were taken care of with that being accepted as a payment guarantee. We have the Allianz medical which if we were staying longer we might have needed as DH injured himself this morning, but he will get it looked at tomorrow at home. Stuff happens.
A flight of an hour is about 20 minutes to serve the whole cabin with takeoff and collection of trash and landing. I don’t mind no service. Less opportunity for someone to spill on me!
No doubt this is cost cutting. Less to load on the plane, less weight to carry, reduce complexity of gate turnaround time, less trash generated to remove from the plane, less trash generated for cleaning the plane between flights. All things that ultimately could help streamline turn around time. For that reason, I’m in favor of less is more.
I honestly don’t care if they serve me beverages or not on short hops. I always carry my own food and drink with me anyway. (Drinks purchased after security). And I always did so for my kids when we traveled as well.
I don’t view this as an issue.
No snack or drink on a short flight makes sense as they have little time to serve and the cart blocks the aisle during that time. It would be helpful if they reminded passengers of this before they boarded as there’s no lack of snack options in the airport.