General Education requirements for Tisch?

<p>Could someone clarify this for me?</p>

<p>When I go to the Tisch requirements for a major, it gives a very generalized explanation of the requirements. For example, it says a student needs so many points in science, but then lists a broad set of courses that fulfill the requirement (e.g., social sciences). The link is here: UGFTV</a> Degree Requirements: Tisch School of the Arts at NYU</p>

<p>However, it seemed a bit fishy to me that Tisch doesn't require students to take specific sciences. I called up NYU, and they told me I need to refer to the following page: About</a> the Program, CAS MAP | NYU</p>

<p>This page lists natural science as a requirement as well as foreign language. This is a lot more detailed than what the Tisch page lists.</p>

<p>So I'm just wondering... how do the two of these intersect?</p>


<p>Hi, Isealbz,</p>

<p>It sounds to me like Tisch defines the Sciences requirement for Tisch students more broadly to include natural sciences, social sciences and math. It appears they are giving their students more flexibility in choosing courses they may be more comfortable with in the "sciences" and in fulfilling the rest of the 44 credits of General Ed requirements via Humanities AND/OR Sciences (after fulfilling the 24 credits in the 3 categories of Expository Writing, Humanities, and Sciences).</p>

<p>From what I have heard, Tisch students have very full schedules with the Tisch specific classes (which tend to entail long hours), so maybe this is how the students get a little "break."</p>

<p>My interpretation from reading the Tisch requirements. Until you hear from a Tisch student who knows first hand about the requirements.</p>

<p>Thanks for your response. I contacted Tisch through email, and I was given the following response: "The core requirements at NYU vary from school to school. At NYU, unless it is specific with your major, students are required to take courses to fulfill certain core areas, but they do not have to take any one specific course to fulfill it. Therefore at Tisch, your natural science requirement can be filled with lab sciences, math or social sciences. Tisch does not have a foreign language requirement."</p>

<p>I have one more question while I'm here. I took English Composition I in community college, and my Credit Evaluation says it will transfer as 3 points. As a transfer student, I'm required 4 points in expository writing. Does this mean I'll need to take an additional course, or do you think the 3 points will fulfill the entire requirement? I asked via email, and I was basically told they'll let me know once I send in my final transcript, but maybe someone has had experience with this.</p>

<p>Thanks again!</p>

<p>Well, I recommend that you send a copy (to NYU Advisement office) of the course description and underline whatever overlap there is between the Eng Comp I course you took in community college and the Expository Writing course at NYU. There will be a greater chance of NYU giving you the full 4 credits if you can show that the Eng Comp I course covers substantially parallel or similar content to NYU's Exp Writing. It appears you are in the borderline area here and the more documentation in your favor you can provide, the better.</p>

<p>By the way, if the community college is known to NYU and of known repute to NYU, the course may just be accepted for transfer credit without much ado. So it also depends on the community college and its reputation with NYU.</p>

<p>What would comprise a "reputation with NYU"? I attended Atlantic Cape Community College in south New Jersey. I wouldn't expect this community college to have a particular reputation with NYU.</p>

<p>As for sending in documentation, I actually emailed an adviser and asked her about that before. She said, and I quote, "More information follows the statement of credit transfer. This is a tentative statement. All credit will be fully awarded once we receive your final college transcript. This will just give you an idea of what credits would most likely transfer. </p>

<p>If we require more information for a class (say it is pending dept review), the department will request it from you once you are an enrolled student."</p>

<p>Well, NYU has been accepting students from the same schools year in and year out and they have a record of dealing with schools they know of, especially in the NE. So, if Atlantic Cape CC has been a school where previous NYU students have received credit, then NYU may know already about their department-specific coursework, especially for something that can substitute for a core NYU requirement like Writing.</p>

<p>Due to the credit differential you have been inquiring about, I have suggested that you preemptively send in a course description to make sure NYU has the material to help them assess the credits to the course you took at the CC. This is based on my talk last year with NYU Advisement on behalf of my son and an advisor's suggestion to include a course description in case of doubt over the "credit-worthiness" of the course under discussion. Moreover, my talk with the advisor last year led me to believe NYU will not "punish" you for more info. On the contrary, the more complete your file, the easier it is for NYU to make a decision on your case.</p>

<p>Evolving, how do you think I would figure something like that out about community college - by asking other students? I don't know any students who transferred from ACCC to NYU. </p>

<p>I suppose I could send info on the classes, but I'm a little worried it could work against me. Which information would I send? A general course description? Or should I try to get syllabi? If the latter, I'm worried NYU might actually think the course isn't up to par. I guess I'd need to look up NYU syllabi and compare them.</p>

<p>1) The first part is not up to you. It has to do with NYU and their internal assessments of course work at other colleges. It was just a point I brought up for you to keep in mind.</p>

<p>2) This second part is really more under your control. That is is exactly what I would do. Look at the two syllabi, if possible for you to get the NYU syllabus. If not, then just get your ACCC course syllabus and submit that, especially if you have confidence that the course you took at ACCC was really solid. If not, then maybe you should just let it be and let NYU decide. NYU's various offices are super busy with tons of paperwork, so whatever you can submit that is highlighted for them can only help your case. As I stated before, the advisor I spoke to seemed to want the student to be proactive. I was going to have my son forward stuff to the Admissions Office and the advisor immediately provided the Advisement Office fax number to make sure Advisement got the materials in a more timely manner. In fact, he pointed out that materials from Admissions may not get to Advisement until much later (or even get "misplaced," so direct communications with NYU Advisement was recommended.)</p>

<p>Of course, you should not sound too pushy. Include a note stating that you want to facilitate the process of credit evaluation by submitting some key info about the course taken at ACCC.</p>

<p>Evolving, thanks for your help. One more question for you. Since it has been a while since I've taken a few of my courses, and I don't want to annoy too many professors, do you think I should focus my attention on "core" classes? For example, a lot of the credits are listed as humanities and aren't too important, but a few of them are more important than others (e.g., biology, chemistry, calculus, English composition). Or would you try to get information on pretty much all of them?</p>

<p>Wait a sec, Isealbz,</p>

<p>Are you a transfer student and that is the reason you have so many college level courses?</p>

<p>If you are asking about documenting all the above courses with syllabi and/ or course descriptions, that may be too much. If ACCC is accredited and you got a "B" or better (I think), you should not have to worry about getting credit for most of your courses.</p>

<p>I was only recommending more documentation for a course that is 3 credits and you want 4 credits from NYU. Though I have to say, I am not sure why NYU's courses are mostly 4 credits. I remember most of my Barnard College courses were 3 credits (like your CC Eng Comp I course). Now if you tell me all your other courses are also 3 credits, it may then mean that the CC gives credits differently from NYU. Then just "argue" for the class (es) that mean the most to you in terms of getting equivalent NYU credit.</p>

<p>Hi, again,</p>

<p>Not to be misleading since I thought initially you are an incoming freshmen. Since you are a transfer student accepted from a regionally accredited (I assume) CC, you should not have to provide supporting documentation for all the courses taken. Here is the link from the NYU CAS bulletin (by the way, to get transfer credit into NYU, you have to get a minimum grade of "C," not "B," like I had thought):</p>


<p>A student may be admitted by transfer from another college in September, January, or May. (See “The Admission Process,” above.) Credit will be granted for most collegiate work completed with a grade of C or better within the last 10 years that satisfies degree requirements and that falls within the residency requirement, with the exception of certain courses of a vocational nature or courses not consistent with the educational objectives of the College. Within these provisions, applicants from regionally accredited colleges are eligible for admission."</p>

<p>Just focus on the English Composition I course content documentation if you want to get out of taking Expository Writing (a course generally known for the difficult grading curve).
You should wait on NYU to get back to you on the other classes taken at ACCC, unless there are other courses which you think are important for you to get transfer credit from NYU (and thus document well).</p>

<p>Evolving: most of my courses at CC were 3 classes, but I had some weird classes that were 4 or even 5 credits! </p>

<p>Yes, I'm a transfer student.</p>

<p>I've just heard NYU is bad about transferring credits, which is why I'm a little concerned.</p>

<p>Do you think a class being taken online could impact a decision? I'm not sure it even shows up whether a class was taken online; it just lists the name.</p>

<p>Are you asking about: 1) a decision for the one online class or 2) a decision for all your ACCC classes based on the one online class taken?</p>

<p>1) probably depends on whether or not the online course is from an accredited program.</p>

<p>2) NYU will evaluate transfer credit based on the school (in this case ACCC?) where the classes were taken, not on one online course taken.</p>