General vs ME out of state

SLO is the only exception when calculating the CSU GPA among the CSU’s using 9-11th grades in their GPA calculation.

DE course grades for the UC’s are reported once with 1 Honors point for each semester course taken 10-11th grades so how the UC’s and CSU’s handle DE courses are different in their GPA calculations.

If he is fairly certain he wants ME, he should apply to that directly. If he is uncertain as to which engineering field he wants to pursue, he should apply to GE. He will be competitive for either program, but of course there are no guarantees for admission. So just apply to a few other schools that he would be excited to attend that are a little more of a sure thing. I think with his GPA he will qualify for WUE at both Oregon State, and Utah, as well as merit scholarships at UMN-TC and Iowa St. Just apply, it is an easy app, visit if you get in in the spring.

For sure at OSU, and probably better at Utah. Both are very good programs. Our son is a CP alum, but out of seven total applications those were two of them.

Yes, My son is already applying to Oregon State. We visited last year and we really liked Corvallis and they have a great Engineering program too. UNM was not on our radar but we will look into it, you get a great discount with WUE.

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Yup, he liked Oregon Sate a lot so he is def applying there. He is also applying to CalPoly Pomona, WA STATE, Colorado School of Mines, UW Seattle and Bothell and Olin. About 10 colleges total. He doesn’t want to write too many essays. LOL!

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He should also consider applying for the honors program at OSU (oh joy, more essays!), because it is relatively a relatively unique engineering honors program in that his engineering classes will also be dedicated honors classes (i.e. small classes taught by faculty that want to teach). That is actually unusual with respect to honors programs and engineering. In most places honors programs are just more work on top of the already hectic regular engineering curriculum.

EDIT to add I meant to check out U Minnesota-TwinCities. Apply early action on the common app. It is not WUE but they are pretty generous with merit. Their NPC gives a pretty accurate estimation of the merit scholarship he would get there. It is an impressive school, but a big university in a large city-- kind of like UW.

When our son was vetting schools, OSU was completely unique in this regard. In addition, the instructors have to compete for the privilege.

He was invited into the honors program at Cal Poly after his first year, but he turned it down. Classes are already small, and he was ahead so had enrollment advantages already. It added ten hours of non-engineering classes.

Back to the OP, I would not overlook Utah. The Spiral curriculum for ME is excellent. The campus is pretty. It and SLC are majority non-LDS if that is a concern. It really feels smaller than it is. The MUSS is amazing if your son is into sports. It made my son’s final three, even though they let most of their applicants in. Much to like at The U.

Never considered Utha but sounds amazing and i am going to have him look into their program. Ty so much to all of you!!! I have learned so much.

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This is a good call. My son applied to, and visited, a number of schools last year with Utah being one. We walked away impressed by UU and the Salt Lake area. The facilities for the ME department are good. That department houses and number of specialities as well. I know it doesn’t get a lot of press or rankings but it is a good program with solid outcomes.

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Yes, I have never really heard of UU engineering program. but what I found out from @eyemgh and you, I love that it’s easy to get in state residencey and with WUE, it might be cheaper than some WA in state tuition! It’s not all about the rankings as you get a good education! thanks for sharing your experience.

Once you choose WUE, you’re stuck on that path. In order to do the instate router, he’ll need to be OOS for one year. Then it’s just a math game.

Yes, the scholarships at Utah are a bit different in recent years. The higher level scholarships which are hard to get (close to 4.0UW and typically around 8-10 APs or full IB) give a tuition discount with the expectation you’ll get residency after the first year. If you do that then it will be meaningfully cheaper than WUE, but you have to stay for the summer (physical presence means not more than 28 days out of state in a 365 day period, verified by bank transactions or a job outside term time). You can’t any longer get non-resident scholarships and just keep them for 4 years, as that generally costs more than WUE.

WUE is awarded more readily (my S23 got it with 3.7UW and 5 APs) but you can’t get residency if you choose WUE.

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