How does recruitment work for Georgetown football? Is it like Ivy League recruitment but without necessarily using the same Academic Index-Band formula? Is the level of play expected higher because it is in the Patriot League?
I’ve learned about Ivy League and D3 recruitment (like NESCAC) and a little about Patriot League in general. However, I wasn’t sure how Georgetown specifically works because I believe it is the only Patriot League that doesn’t offer football scholarships to all of its recruitment and the academics standards I imagine are higher.
The Patriot uses a band system similar to the Ivy. I believe there are three bands instead of four, and there is less info published about how the system works, but the coaches should be able to help you with where you fit. And yes, Georgetown is the only non scholarship Patriot school, and it has the highest academic requirements.
I am not sure the Patriot is at a higher athletic level. Generally the top half of the Ivy does very well against the Patriot league. Last year, for example, Patriot champ (and playoff quarter finalist) Colgate went 1-2 against the Ivy, only beating Cornell who I think was 1-9. My son’s Princeton team went 3-0 against the Patriot and only 2-5 against the Ivy, although injuries probably had a lot to do with the Ivy record. Trust me, as a former player at a Patriot school, it pains me to say that. The Patriot is getting better, and the move back to scholarships helps a lot, but they are not there yet. Hopefully soon.
Thanks @Ohiodad51 for clarifying. I’ll follow up with the coach to see if I can learn more about its band system.
I guess it doesn’t matter, but I assumed Patriot League has higher athletic standards than Ivy because my sense is the academic standards are lower. I might be mistaken. I’m basing that on friends I have who did recruitment. At Patriot League schools, they were given the sense that an SAT of 1500s-1600s would be more than enough for recruitment, but at Ivies they were told that wouldn’t be the case. I just presumed that meant the pool of people they can attract is larger and combined with the scholarships, they can attract better quality recruits.
Likewise, Georgetown is the only Patriot League college that has responded to me, but I’ve gotten more substantial responses from Ivy League. I presumed that also meant that maybe my athletics are not high enough for Patriot because the have higher standards. However, I thought Georgetown might not be as high because of lack of scholarships and higher academic standards, so I thought maybe that’s why I got a response there.
You are right that the academic threshold to be recruit able is lower in the Patriot League than in the Ivy. This does give the Patriot schools a “deeper” pool of players to recruit from. This advantage is lessened somewhat by three things. First, that the Ivy recruits nationally much more effectively than the Patriot, due largely to their greater notoriety. Second and somewhat related, Ivy teams, at least those consistently in the top half of the league, seem to be able to pick off one or two kids a year who are legit P5 level recruits which does not really happen in the Patriot. Third, the Patriots can give up to 60 full schollys divided among no more than 85 players. For the most part, and without doing the math, this means that generally speaking the Patriot schools who are fully funding can compete financially with most of the Ivys, but while the Patriot schools can only roster 85, the Ivys can roster 120. At the end of the day, numbers matter.
As I have said before, I think things are changing for the better in the Patriot League, and it is anyone’s guess where they will be athletically in three or four years. I am worried that the 85 roster limit/no red shirts will be a problem long term, but it is undeniable that the depth of the league is improving over the last four years as schollys have phased in.