Georgetown Rankings...

<p>Although I don't put a great deal of emphasis on rankings from the US NEW and WORLD REPORT, as well as other publications, I wonder why Georgetown has never been above the top 20?
I have looked at the rankings as far back as the early 90's, and the highest position Gerogetown ever received was #20, in 1997
I feel it is one of the most prestigious universities in the US, as well as offers a wonderful education.
Although I am attempting to be admitted, I wonder if my perception is way off from the general public's view of the school (not that it matters to me - I am just curious).
Does anyone have any insight as to why it has never had higher rankings?</p>

<p>Does US News look at money issues? If so, that may be the case.</p>

<p>Endowment is taken into consideration, and Georgetown's is relatively small at 680 million (ranked 77th for endowment). However, I believe that next year Georgetown's rank will go up because of the extremely competitive applicant pool this year (the most competitive in the schools' history). By the way, in my opinion rankings are a load of crock (for lack of a better word). I don't pay attention to them or like them at all.</p>

<p>If Georgetown has produced people like Bill Clinton and other world leaders, why is their endowment so low? They should have one of the highest.</p>

<p>Well because while other universities have been fundraising for years (i.e. Harvard), Georgetown only recently gianed prominence, and thus has been fundraising for not a very long time. Gtown was just a small university on the east coast until the 1980s, when it was thrust into the spotlight due to various factors. Also, it is not the alumni donations that are low. The thing that spoils Gtown's endowment is its misuse, and also the medical center drains exorbitant amounts of money from it. The president of the university is also on of the highest paid university presidents of all time (higher than Harvard's, Yale's, and Princeton's).</p>

<p>There's an article all about it at <a href=""&gt;;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>...I hope I accurately portrayed the problem. There might be some errors in what I said, so read the article for yourself and see. :)</p>

<p>that's ridiculous:</p>

<p>another thing that actually lowers the ranking is the yield. Many people apply to the Ivies and Georgetown. If they get into an Ivy, they go there rather than to GU..</p>

<p>So though calidan is right, and the applicant pool was the most competitive...those uber competitive people will probably end up elsewhere and therefore the stats won't be as impressive.</p>

<p>Yeah... thats' true.</p>

<p>hey, I read that article, it was pretty good</p>

<p>how much does the President get paid? Did I miss it in there?</p>

<p>So does this mean that their financial aid completely sucks??</p>

<p>manderz- there was an article about the president's salary in The Hoya (<a href=""&gt;;/a&gt;). You could probably look it up in the archives. It wasn't in that other article in The Voice.</p>

<p>And actually, their FinAid (from what I've heard) doesn't suck too much.</p>

<p>De Gioa gets gets $600,000, a house, and a car. Our ratings dropped because of our financial situation (the credit rating dropped). The alumnis are not donating enough money. They donate money to have buildings constructed, for scholarships, but not really for the maintenance of these new buildings. Georgetown administration can be ridiculous and people do remember that and the fact that its so expensive to go here, does not make alums jump at the opportunity to give back. I think Georgetown has gotten competitive, because its not only prestigious (especially SFS), it offers great college life and opportunities. Financial aid, depending on who you ask can suck. If you are upper middle class and above, you will most likely receive no aid. Most of my friends here do not receive much aid and $43,000 is steep. Although, I have to say many of the experiences here make it worth it.</p>

<p>Georgetown's Ivy atmosphere and perfect location have made it very hot.</p>

<p>This is true... And I think that it will only get better as time passes.</p>

<p>And Georgetown will always be (tied for) #1 in my opinion! :D</p>

<p>here, here, calidan.
BTW, my in-person interview has been cancelled with Georgetown. They are just going to have a phone interview with me on March 2. They said they have had more applicants than they have ever seen in the last twenty-plus years, so they said that they're having to do some phone interviews in order to get everyone through the process.</p>

<p>Well thats how you're other interviews have been, right? So it should be more comfortable for you. Is the phone interview still the same date?</p>

<p>No, it was changed to March 2nd, @ 10:00 a.m.
On that day, I will find out if I have been accepted.
Yeah, all of my other interviews (Penn, Hopkins) have been phone interviews.
It seems like college applications are up at every school this year.
Aside from Brown and Georgetown, Penn even stated that their applications were up greatly this year!</p>

<p>Georgetown's achilles heel is not its endowment or the talent of its student body. It is its lack of academic versatility. With the exception of a very strong International Relations/Foreign Service program, Georgetown does not really have a great department. Business and Nursing are respected, but few other departments are. That explains why it has a relatively low academic reputation score (peer assessment of 4.0/5.0). If you look closely at the USNWR, you will see that most schools ranked ahead of Georgetown have peer assessments over 4.2 (with the exception of Washington U, Vanderbilt, Emory and Notre Dame). But these schools have much larger endowments which helps them out in other ways. Most schools ranked among the top 20 are usually very strong in several fields. Let me give you an example:</p>

<p>Harvard: Excellent in all the Sciences, Humanities, Social Sciences, Languages and decent in Engineering.</p>

<p>Stanford: Excellent in all Sciences, Humanities, Social Sciences, Languages and Engineering.</p>

<p>Princeton: Same as Stanford.</p>

<p>Yale: Same as Harvard.</p>

<p>Penn: Excellent in the Social Sciences, Humanities, Business and Languages/International Studies. Good in the Sciences and Engineering.</p>

<p>Duke: Excellent in the Humanities, Biological and Social Sciences, strong in other Sciences and Engineering.</p>

<p>Cornell: Excellent in the Sciences, Hotel Management, Agriculture, Industrial and Labor Relations, Engineering and Humanities, good in the Social Sciences and Business.</p>

<p>Columbia: Excellent in the Social Sciences, Languages/International Studies, Humanities and Sciences, strong in Engineering.</p>

<p>Chicago: Excellent in all the Sciences, Humanities and Social Sciences.</p>

<p>MIT: Excellent in the Sciences, Business, Engineering, Economics, Linguistics, Philosophy, Psychology and Political Sciences.</p>

<p>Johns Hopkins: Excellent in the Sciences, Languages/International Studies, Humanities and Social Sciences, and good in Engineering.</p>

<p>Michigan: Excellent in everything.</p>

<p>Cal-Berkeley: Same as Michigan.</p>

<p>UVA: Excellent in the Humanities, Social Sciences, Business, Languages/International Studies and Architecture, good in Engineering and the Sciences.</p>

<p>CalTech: Excellent in the Sciences, Engineering and Economics.</p>

<p>Brown: Excellent in the Sciences, Humanities and Social Sciences.</p>

<p>At any rate, the USNWR is not accurate. Last year, more Georgetown students went to top 15 Law schools than from any other university save Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford and Duke. So obviously, for students interested in Politics, Foreigh Service and Law, Georgetown is second to none.</p>

<p>ok, but i don't really see a difference between "excellent" and "strong"</p>

<p>Even though the president is recieving all of large salary and a house, he is a jesuit. he stays in the on campus jesuit residence and his salary goes back to the georgetwon (vow of poverty)</p>

<p>if that's true, what's the point of paying him then?</p>