Getting in to UCLA outside the system.

Colleges & Universities University of California - Los Angeles
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<p>Hey,</p>

<p>My name is Jonny, and I’ll be going into college here in Ireland after the summer.</p>

<p>Thing is, I’ve no real interest in it as I won’t really be experiencing anything new as I already live around the area of the main colleges and know a fair few people going. </p>

<p>I was in Cali and NY last summer and had a drive around UCLA and USC, with my preference being UCLA, as well as being told it was “safer”. Didn’t get to see Columbia when I was in NY though…</p>

<p>Basically, I’d like to move to America to go to college, and as an ultra-ambitious person I want to go to the best place available. </p>

<p>I preferred Cali to NYC, but I like the look of Columbia (from their website) and of course the fact it’s an Ivy league college. Is it realistic I could get into either of these colleges (obviously in this instance I mean UCLA) outside the system? By that I mean would it be possible to get in for the start of next year?</p>

<p>Of course it’s hard to not sound arrogant when listing your qualities, but I feel, well, know, I’m a very intelligent person and genuinely believe I’m going to be one of the richest people in the world through business. I’m hoping that this “confidence” would be a positive thing for colleges considering my application, but obviously as there’s no evidence (at the moment) of anything notable, they might just think I am what I sound like, an arrogant and somewhat deluded 19-year old wannabe.</p>

<p>I’ll be setting up a company after my exams (finish on the 20th June) and would expect to be a millionaire by 21, but at that stage I’m not sure how interested I’d be in college. In other words, I want it now…</p>

<p>Over here it’s very difficult to get into college without doing the necessary exams, but my (somewhat ignorant) impression is that it’s easier in the States. Am I being unrealistic in that respect?</p>

<p>Anyway, any information that could be of help would be held with immense gratitude and I thank you in advance.</p>

<p>jbax.</p>

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<p>I don’t get it- what’s your point? Is this some kind of joke?</p>

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<p>It is difficult to get into schools here, especially the ones you’re referring to. You’ll have to take the SAT at some point… or you could always donate a building since you’re rich!
Good luck</p>

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<p>HAHA i’m actually cracking up</p>

<p>CC makes my day :D</p>

<p>EDIT:: Oh yeah, back on topic. Good luck!</p>

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<p>Someone who’s as arrogant as you are is more than likely broke and stupid. Have fun in Ireland, buddy.</p>

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<p>If you’re going to college in Ireland rather than London or Oxbridge then you’re not really in the top percentile of Britons are you?</p>

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<p>I don’t think its going to be as easy as you might assume. I read Oxford’s international transfers thing, and they have a whopping 20something people from the entire US. I’d be under the assumption that this at least reciprocates for US colleges, if not more selective. Schools like the Ivies take ~90 transfers total (I think that’s Harvard’s number), so realistically you should be gearing up for a very challenging act to impress Columbia. </p>

<p>UCLA, while it takes a lot of transfers (thousands), an overwhelming majority are from California, with out of STATE being even countable in the hundreds. A transfer student from Ireland is probably a once-in-a-decade thing for them. Honestly, just stick to the British Isles or Europe.</p>

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<p>Reality check first.</p>

<p>Then SATs.</p>

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:rolleyes:</p>

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<p>Changeling - do not speak with such ignorance. I was accepted to the LSE based on forthcoming results but I’m not sure if I want to do the course I was accepted for.</p>

<p>Also, I could not be in the top percentile of Britons as I am not such a person. The Republic of Ireland is not part of Britain, and half the population of Northern Ireland would like to believe they are also not part of Britain.</p>

<p>kevintech - thanks, buddy.</p>

<p>Not a very helpful group are you?</p>

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<p>Ignorance? You’re a recent admit into an average university who claims to be able to become a millionare in two years. So after 1 year of college, you’re going to make a million while studying the last two years? As well as that you suggest the ease of transferring from an average institution in the UK, to one of the premier ones in the US, Columbia with an application based on arrogance. </p>

<p>Listing your qualities? Do you have any thing concrete to show your supposed intelligence? That was what I pointed out. Ok…if you recieved an unconditional offer from Cambridge, then sure. You speak of potential to earn, supposed intelligence, I’m just pointing out the illogicallity of your beliefs based on your standing now</p>

<p>You’re not ambitious, you’re conceited. If you think some of the top college’s in the world will overlook exams for, not achievement, but deluded conviction and over-confidence at the prospect of achievement, then you’re the one speaking with ignorance. </p>

<p>I’m not being sugary here, dispelling your notions that you are Einstein-Incarnate, and destined to a life of riches and commercial success. But institutions aren’t going to accept you if you write about yourself like that. 8 people’ve replied, and the response has either been of ludicrity, or even offence at the arrogance. And that is precisely how any admission officer will react if you submit a similar personal essay. </p>

<p>Proof is in the pudding, either make your million then apply based on achievement, or look for other achievements to base your application on.</p>

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<p>jbax going to USC: safe match :rolleyes:</p>

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<p>C: Ignorance? You’re a recent admit into an average university</p>

<p>J: I would not call the London School of Economics an “average univestity” by any means. </p>

<p>C: Who claims to be able to become a millionare in two years. </p>

<p>J: Anyone can in theory, become a millionaire in two years.</p>

<p>C: So after 1 year of college, you’re going to make a million while studying the last two years? </p>

<p>J: My company won’t take that much time out of my schedule once it’s up and running.</p>

<p>C: As well as that you suggest the ease of transferring from an average institution in the UK, to one of the premier ones in the US, Columbia with an application based on arrogance.</p>

<p>J: Again, I wouldn’t say the LSE is average; and secondly I never said it would be easy, hence why I posted here.</p>

<p>C: Listing your qualities? Do you have any thing concrete to show your supposed intelligence?</p>

<p>J: No, I don’t, and you’re just repeating what I said in my OP, that indeed, I don’t have any evidence to prove this.</p>

<p>C: That was what I pointed out. </p>

<p>J: No, I understood that myself.</p>

<p>C: Ok…if you recieved an unconditional offer from Cambridge, then sure. You speak of potential to earn, supposed intelligence, I’m just pointing out the illogicallity of your beliefs based on your standing now.</p>

<p>J: You did so by reiterating what I said in my OP.</p>

<p>C: You’re not ambitious, you’re conceited. </p>

<p>J: You don’t know that. That would mean to believe in an ability that isn’t there, how would you know if it’s there or not?</p>

<p>C: If you think some of the top college’s in the world will overlook exams for, not achievement, but deluded conviction and over-confidence at the prospect of achievement, then you’re the one speaking with ignorance.</p>

<p>J: Thanks for once again repeating what I said. YES, I realise that’s how I might come across, so we’ll have to work on that won’t we?</p>

<p>C: I’m not being sugary here, dispelling your notions that you are Einstein-Incarnate, and destined to a life of riches and commercial success. But institutions aren’t going to accept you if you write about yourself like that. </p>

<p>J: Thank you, point noted.</p>

<p>C: 8 people’ve replied, and the response has either been of ludicrity, or even offence at the arrogance. And that is precisely how any admission officer will react if you submit a similar personal essay.</p>

<p>J: Right, well I won’t word it like I have here, then.</p>

<p>And just in case you missed it as you’ve made no reference to your mistake, the Republic of Ireland is not part of Britain.</p>

<p>PS: Is there no “quote” function available on these forums?</p>

<p>Proof is in the pudding, either make your million then apply based on achievement, or look for other achievements to base your application on.</p>

<p>Fair enough, that seems the obvious thing to do.</p>

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<p>jbax, it’s not the wording that’s that problem, it’s the substance.</p>

<p>Quote does work but CC doesn’t like to advertise it or something. You have to use <quote>quoted text here</quote></p>

<p>only with brackets () instead of the <></p>

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<p>One last thing.</p>

<p>SHOW ME THE MONEY!</p>

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<p>the easiest way for you is probably make your million dollars and “donate” that to USC or any other private that considers donations highly… donating to public school don’t really improve your chance much, if you think you are truely intelligent, go take the SAT and prove yourself, argueing against people on this forum don’t show much, not saying people here are dumb, just saying that UCLA don’t read this so they won’t know you are argueing with such “intelligence”… but seriously, if you think you can do so well in life and earn so much money why do you bother to go to school since you are gonna run your own business and think you can be successful already…</p>

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<p>That’s a good point, and one I’ve thought about quite a lot.</p>

<p>I’ve ended up with the conclusion that no matter how great you think you are, going to college will likely always be beneficial to you.</p>

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<p>but remember you take up a spot for someone thats not “already” successful and needs to college education to be better, you are already good why not let someone else have a chance, selfish people are the worst kind of people…</p>

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<p>Well, jbax hasn’t proven himself to be successful, so college is always good. I don’t quite agree with the “taking a spot that someone else could’ve used thing” ; you should’ve gotten into UCLA on your own merit, so you do deserve that spot. </p>

<p>Take the SATs, jbax. Your words, ambitious as they may be, aren’t a standard from which any US college can judge them from.</p>

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<p>why stop at a million? :)</p>