Getting into Cal and what to expect when you finally get there

<p>To Matt and Berkeley Dude: </p>

<p>On the Asian majority? Am I saying its detrimental? Absolutely not, what I was saying it is can be detrimental for some students, especially since the culture the students bring with them can set the tone for the university. It’s a fact that if the student culture is geared towards studying heavily, there will be lots of studying. If the student culture is set towards parties, there will be lots of partying and the university will adjust itself accordingly. Is what I said I being prejudiced? Perhaps, but that was not my intention. I’m just making notes on my observations. The inherent problem with a majority and claiming a diverse (if we are defining diversity by racial makeup) environment, means you can’t have a majority of individuals. One group may gain a slight foothold from year to year, however, there has to be a fairly even balance of races and cultures to keep diversity truly alive. Under the logic of diversity in its purest meaning – let’s say there are 5 main races, and please excuse my lack of political correctness: Whites, Native Americans, Asians, Hispanics/Latinos, and Blacks. Now, under the racial diversity definition, the school should be about 20% for each. However, if you REALLY want to get deep into diversity, let’s say there is 50 major cultures in the world. That means, the school would have to accept 2% of its student body from each subgroup. Side note to Max: Relax – I know there are differences between the different cultures, however, Berkeley bills itself as racially diverse, at least when I applied. </p>

<p>Mainly for Berkeley dude and to come back to Matt’s point:
As far as being Jewish? It really isn’t much of a problem unless you run into an intolerant bigot. These people tend to be far leftist “liberals” or far right reactionaries. Note, that liberals is in quotation marks. A true liberal, regardless of whether they are libertarian or socialist leaning, should tolerate, if not accept everyone, regardless of race, culture, creed, religion, or belief. However, there are a few students (a small, but shrilly annoying and vocal minority) at Berkeley that seemed to have missed that memo. Back to your worries about being Jewish, I saw derogatory graffitti against Jews and things that have eminated from student’s mouths towards whites and jews that bordered on hate speech, but keep in mind, this is the exception (especially lately), and not the rule. I don’t abide racism in any form. </p>

<p>I should have clarified a few things when I wrote that piece, what is it almost two years ago? The piece was meant to be somewhat raw as well. If it offended or came off as a callous, close-minded, and crude, I apologize, but I did say, take everything with a grain of salt. My intention was to give people some idea what they are getting into. Honesty is sadly subjective. What I see as truth might be seen as a fallacy by another person. Of course opinions change, especially after you spend a year in Europe, and I very well may write a followup piece in the next couple of days.</p>

<p>And to Astro:
Yes, I am. Why do you ask?</p>

<p>…and I can’t believe this thread was dragged up from the dead.</p>

<p>Berkeley_dude:</p>

<p>Ok, so I have no reason to respond to your post but uh

  1. No. There’s really no discrimination. Jews comprise of 1/4 of Caucasians on campus.
  2. I’m 3/4 Asian and I want more diversity on campus. I want to go to school with people different from me. However I’m not a big fan of AA, so I don’t know how that works.</p>

<p>No discrimination against Jews? That’s essentially true. It seems that there is basically so little you could say there is none. There are some rabid anti-Israel people (some of whom are probably masking anti semetism), and many anti-religion people. There is almost or essentially none, but some, discrimination against Jews. Nothing else could explain, for example, the anti semetic comment written on the AEPi house this past year, other than a hoax or some other unlikely alternative. It’s very rare, certainly, almost non present.</p>

<p>Drab: </p>

<p>Indeed, but it was more prevalent following 9/11 and leading up to the Iraq War and up til the original post, though it was declining at that point. Fortunately, such things have settled down even more in the past year and a half to two years.</p>

<p>I have friends that are TDX brothers but in different schools (Dartmouth, Stanford). Who knows, maybe if I end up at Berkeley, I may try to as well.</p>

<p>So… my Jewish friend told me I can tell who is Jewish by looking at their nose. Is this more or less true?</p>

<p>Sort of. </p>

<p><a href=“http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=345&letter=N[/url]”>http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=345&letter=N&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>bump for the 2011 applicants
one question that’s still not answered:

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<p>You social life is what you make of it. You can be in an impacted major, work your a$$ off, and still have time to hang with friends. You just have to learn how to schedule your time, and not put off everything to the last moment. It is very doable.</p>

<p>Andrewtdx has an agenda. Berkeley was one of the best experiences of my life.
Everything good that flowed from my years there socially, academically, intellecutally, romantically and aesthetically started at Cal. PM me if you’d like more details. There are many ways to have an intimate experience at Cal, but you have to (in high school speak) “make good choices.”</p>

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<p>correx: intellectually</p>

<p>a poster up there was complaining about drinking and pot in the dorms and such.</p>

<p>It sux that your uncomfortable with it, but don’t you think that part of theso problem is being to shy.</p>

<p>At any college (except like…byu or some crazy religious school) your gonna find sex, drugs and rock and roll…it’s part of college life.
so you have two choices, move out find like minded friends (as somebody said), or have fun, and break out. don’t bash pot till you try it, go to a frat party, be a bit wild, who knows maybe you’ll have a good time.</p>

<p>case in point: my roomate was very shy and introverted, until we (my other roomates) took him out and he had a good time, now there’s no drama, we get along great and we all have a good time every once in a while partying in the dorms and what not.</p>

<p>so break out, it’s college, free love baby.</p>

<p>oh…and berkeley’s fun, yah your a number, but that just makes it a challenge to make yourself be known.</p>

<p>good luck on getting in!</p>

<p>I would bet good money that the people that had a “good” time have crappy grades and mediocre jobs.</p>

<p><em>waits for angry tirade about how their 40k a year, dead-end job is actually “good” and about how grades are for socially awkward people and that they know people with good grades that partied a lot</em></p>

<p>i’m not saying go insane, but what kind of life is it if you sit around playing card games on a saturday night. live a litte, a moment enjoyed isn’t always a moment wasted.</p>

<p>Just out of curiosity, how would coming from a catholic private school to a big public university be? I’m throwing this out there to anybody who wants to answer, but I guess I’m used to small classes and having a more personal experience. I’m definetely unaware of a public school experience, but would it be hard to transition to a public university?</p>

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<p>It’ll be hard. The best thing is to find your own group of friends asap. Joining a fraternity helps a lot.</p>

<p>i came from a small catholic private school too. So far, the big classes are weird, but if you’re diligent and pay attention you’ll be fine. It’s definatley liberating, although i still love wearing my old uniforms to class cause i hate choosing what to wear.</p>

<p>If you felt particularly brainwashed and sick of organized religion after high school…then you’ll feel at home at berkeley, because there’s so much that challenges that old way of thinking and so much to do.</p>

<p>Also there’s definately more economic diversity, racially not so much,you’re tripping over asians. </p>

<p>I’m not in a frat, but it’s definately great if you thrive a greater sense of bonded-ness to other people; for me though, i just found good friends, and developed a rythm.</p>

<p>One more thing, in smaller classes and stuff, they keep you occupied with more hands-on work and busy work…here, at least for lands and social sciences its mostly tons of reading, which can make you slip because its easier to slack off on the reading, then suddenly its midterm season and you’re screwed.</p>

<p>have fun your senior year</p>

<p>Wow. I’m honored that after almost two years, this got posted as an “Important” thread. :-D</p>

<p>Sounds like my Uni. Shame they’d never accept me.</p>

<p>I am a rower for a nationally competitive crew team and I would like to know more about the Cal crew team, because I’ve heard that they are one of the best. Thanks!</p>

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