<p>Are there any? I swear to god I haven’t met any real Giants fans yet and I’m trying to find some. It’d be nice if here was a club or something. I end up having to watch all the games by myself…</p>
<p>where are you guys?</p>
<p>From my experience in SF last week, I’d say there are more Red Sox fans than Giants fans in the City By The Bay - at least if you go by hats and t-shirts. (And ditto Berkeley).</p>
<p>wow, its a honor to have you post here byerly.</p>
<p>You should really teach us how to create a poster like you.</p>
<p>The berkeley forum needs a cheerleader :)</p>
<p>Any thoughts would be much appreciated…!</p>
<p>Yet before October 2004, that would not be true.</p>
<p>The Bay Area is just not a great place for sports fans</p>
<p>I’m a great admirer of sakky; a very sage observer. Passionately dedicated to Berkeley, although not blind to its faults.</p>
<p>Incidentally, a point in Berkeley’s favor that is too often under-emphasized: it is one of America’s great college towns, making sleepy Palo Alto look rather dreary by comparison.</p>
<p>yo… another Giants fan… nice… all the people I know are from SoCal and are Dodgers fans… ewww… </p>
<p>yea, but Giants havent had much to cheer about this year… the average age of our roster is like 40…</p>
<p>God I hope they can get the wild card. It would be really sad if they can’t because they are on a great streak right now.</p>
<p>Yeah, the Giants really need to develop some position players so we don’t have to rely on over-the-hill FAs every year to compete. </p>
<p>We should start a Giants baseball club to watch games together somewhere. That’ll be tight.</p>
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<p>“We should start a Giants baseball club to watch games together somewhere. That’ll be tight.”</p>
<p>Yeah, that’s what I’m talking about.</p>
<p>As for the prospects, it was barren but at least they added to blue chippers this season in Lincecum and Villanona (albeit Villanona is years away)</p>
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<p>This is true, and is definitely a point in Berkeley’s favor. The city of Berkeley is far more interesting than anything in the South Bay, and rivals Cambridge Mass in terms of being the quintessential college town. </p>
<p>What I don’t like about Berkeley is first of all the crime, and second of all the police presence that tends to harass you but seems to do nothing about the crime. The police seem to be more concerned about parking and moving violations than about other crime. For example, why is it that when I drive around with an expired registration tag (for which I already got the fixup ticket), I get nailed seemingly every day, but when I got mugged in Berkeley, why were the police nowhere to be found? When my friend had his car stolen, where were the cops? </p>
<p>But other than that, I agree that Berkeley the city is still an overall plus for the students. </p>
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<p>There’s a good number of A’s fans and (especially) Raiders fans in Berkeley. Even the 49ers have some following in Berkeley (although obviously less than in the good ol’ days). But the Giants? Not so much.</p>
<p>Please…Western baseball as a whole is a joke…dont even get me started on barry bonds and his racist views and lies…bottom line is the dodgers, giants, rockies and other western teams still cannot compete with new york, and boston…and before you all get cute let me remind you both of our ny teams are in 1st place on cushions</p>
<p>racist views?</p>
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<p>Uh, don’t the Oakland A’s actually have a better record than the Red Sox do? And aren’t the A’s a West Coast team?</p>
<p>They have a better record only because they get to play more games against <em>other</em> west coast teams. </p>
<p>I attended the last Red Sox - A’s series in Oakland, and there were more Red Sox than A’s fans in the park, which the Oakland paper disgustedly referred to as “Fenway-West” that week.</p>
<p>Seriously, the whole NL West is a joke.</p>
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<p>Hold on now, this is not true. According to today’s standings, the average winning percentage of teams in the AL East is 0.5064. The average winning percentage of AL West teams is 0.5165. So the A’s actually have BETTER intradivisional competition than the Red Sox do. That’s primarily because no team in the AL West (or the entire AL for that matter) is as bad as the Tampa Bay Devil Rays, which everybody in the AL East beats up on, or at least ought to be (although interestingly the Red Sox have only a 9-7 record agains the terrible Devil Rays). </p>
<p>Now it is true that interleague play meant that the AL West played the NL West, and the AL East played the NL East. And the NL West is weaker than the NL East. But not by much. The average winning percentage of the NL West is 0.4946, the average winning percentage of the NL East is 0.4994, for only a 0.0048 difference. Again, that’s because while the NL East has 1 very good team (the Mets), it also has some pretty bad teams (the Washington Nationals, the Atlanta Braves). As of today, no team in the NL West is as bad as the Nationals or the Braves. </p>
<p>The BIG difference is neither in the West nor the East. It’s in the Central divisions. The AL Central is the best division in baseball, with arguably the 2 best teams in all of baseball (the Detroit Tigers, the Chicago White Sox), and an average division winning percentage of 0.5248 (even though the division includes the terrible Royals). The NL Central is the worst division in baseball, with an average winning percentage of 0.469, which is clearly the worst in all of baseball.</p>
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<p>See above. It’s actually the NL Central that is the joke. It is true that the NL West doesn’t have a particularly strong team. But it also doesn’t have a truly bad team either, but the NL Central has 2 truly bad teams. Even the laggard Colorado Rockies are still far better than the Pittsburgh Pirates or the Chicago Cubs.</p>
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<p>Hey, Red Sox Nation is quite a phenomenom. Heck, I am a member of Red Sox nation. But it is inescapable that, as of today, the A’s have a better record than the Yankees, and the A’s have historically been a better team, with more total World Series titles (9) than the Red Sox have (6).</p>
<p>The NL as a whole is just weaker now. Of the top 8 teams in baseball you really could only say one of those is in the NL.</p>
<p>But the beautiful thing about baseball is anyone who makes the playoffs has a chance. It’s a game of streaks and if a team just happens to go on one and get hot in october, obviously they have a good chance</p>