<p>I think the moderators should close this thread as too political.</p>
<p>Mifune–nope. the officials got it wrong. they did not call the pass interference becaue they “thought” Seubert was ineligible, but he had just been announced in as an eligible receiver. So not only did they not make the right call, they instead called a totally botched wrong penalty.</p>
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<p><a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Green_(American_football_official[/url])”>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Green_(American_football_official)</a></p>
<p>Go Niners! Please make the four men in my family proud, and justify all the 9-er paraphernalia we have in this house. ( a box of Jerry Rice “Rice” anyone?)</p>
<p>garland -some consider that the worst loss ever for the Giants.</p>
<p>Tom–of course, there are a lot to pick from… :(</p>
<p>I suffered through most of them.</p>
<p>I’m all in for the Fightin Harbaughs. Best coach in football–any level</p>
<p>Mifune-
East bay girl here, so good for the Giants but we are A’s fans. And 1998 was a long time ago. I would not call those our glory days. A former 49’er from the Montana/ young days is a friend of mine, so I am fortunate to have seen those super bowl rings up close. Such a thrill! And I know he will be on that sideline on Sunday cheering as loud as the rat of us!</p>
<p>As for wine…Rombauer Chardonny and some warmed Brie with jalape</p>
<p>And I thought we Giants were dealing with the wine and cheese crowd. </p>
<p>The San Francisco 49ers and the NFL have adopted extraordinary security measures for Sunday’s NFC championship against the New York Giants after New Orleans Saints fans complained of harassment by unruly 49ers faithful last week.</p>
<p>Undercover police will be dressed in Giants’ garb and on the lookout for nasty fans. Giants ticketholders will be handed a card as they enter Candlestick Park with details on how to contact police if they feel threatened. And more security cameras and undercover police officers will be in place to identify abusive fans.</p>
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<p>Those fans were so excited that they ruined the day for a shaken Don Moses and his two teenage daughters. Moses, a longtime Bay Area resident who is from New Orleans, said they were wearing the Saints colors and prepared for some good-natured ribbing.</p>
<p>Instead, he tells a horror story of fear and humiliation when his daughters asked him why he didn’t do anything to stop the hulking 49ers fans who yelled vulgarities and threw footballs at them, screamed in their faces and called their mother a whore.</p>
<p>“The hostility and threats of violence were a constant throughout our experience,” Moses said in a letter to the San Francisco Chronicle, one that launched some soul-searching by city officials and led to some 49ers fans to apologize on behalf of their city.</p>
<p>“Every other word from dozens of fans around us was an f-bomb shouted at the top of their lungs,” Moses said. “There were seven or eight large 30- to 35-year-old guys directly behind us who cursed and threatened us the entire game.” He turned to ask them to tone it down in front of his girls and they yelled: “Do not turn around again! Do not ever turn around again.”</p>
<p>He was afraid that if the fans saw him calling or texting security, the men would harm his daughters.</p>
<p>“Every 49ers fan, the team and its owners should be ashamed and embarrassed to wear the red and gold today,” Moses wrote in the letter published Tuesday. “They won the game but are losers in every other way.”</p>
<p>[EarthLink</a> - U.S. News](<a href=“http://my.earthlink.net/article/us?guid=20120120/81606d4f-6517-43e7-a56d-866bd2832931]EarthLink”>http://my.earthlink.net/article/us?guid=20120120/81606d4f-6517-43e7-a56d-866bd2832931)</p>
<p>Wow–sure doesn’t fit the stereotype–I guess too much chardonnay can put guys over the edge…</p>
<p>There are morons everywhere. Even in places with “San Francisco values.” ;)</p>
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<p>After reacquainting myself with the play, the penalty was correctly made against the Giants, but none of the three officials called the PI against the 49ers. However, the New York penalty was NOT called against Seubert (No. 69; the eligible receiver) but rather Tam Hopkins (No. 65) who had lined up at LG for the kick and was indeed illegally upfield. Admittedly, I forgot the stance that Seubert had reported eligible on field goals at the beginning of game. But IF pass interference had been called, the penalties would have offset giving New York a re-kick back at the previous line of scrimmage – not at the 3 or wherever the PI had occurred.</p>
<p>However, if you remember, the 49ers had seemingly intercepted New York’s pass two plays before the field goal attempt. The coaches film (according to then-49ers coach Steve Mariucci) and the side judge (who had been closest to the play) determined that a possession change should be granted. But according to the referee’s decision and inconclusive video evidence, the interception was not awarded. </p>
<p>[Official</a> error;NFL: Pass interference call missed in Giants-49ers 39-38 playoff game](<a href=“http://madmax.lmtonline.com/textarchives/010703/p5.htm]Official”>http://madmax.lmtonline.com/textarchives/010703/p5.htm)</p>
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<p>Oh, so you support the 49ers rather than the Raiders? Good choice!</p>
<p>Some very reasonably argue that the 49ers would have won the Super Bowl after the 1998 season if RB Garrison Hearst didn’t go down with a gruesome ankle injury at the beginning of the NFC title game. They did have a stronger team than both Atlanta and Denver (who won the Super Bowl that year). Since there was no legitimate RB depth behind Hearst the running game essentially went by the wayside.</p>
<p>I’ve always liked the Manning brothers. So even though I’m from Dallas and probably should hate the Giants for making it so clear how crappy our team is, I’m rooting for NY.</p>
<p>But if all my relatives in San Jose ask me who I’m banking on, it’s SF all the way! ;)</p>
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<p>Two 49ers fans were shot in Atlanta by a Saints fan last weekend. The point is that there are unpleasant and unruly fans everywhere and it’s unreasonable to loathe an entire fanbase because of the shameful actions of a few. </p>
<p>Also, alcohol, adrenaline, and testosterone simply isn’t an ideal chemical combination. There have been cries to ban alcohol at NFL games, but it is very unlikely to happen due to the substantial profits that are made from those beverages.</p>
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<p>You gotta to like the turnaround of the Niners under coach Harbaugh, but just as he IS, this team is hardly a team for chardonnay-sipping plutocrats. Attending a game at Candlestick Park is not an experience for the refined crowd. Like many other venues in Northern California, it represents a serious descent in an abysmal ghetto of poor amenities. Simply stated, this might be the worst NFL stadium. And, no, the fans do NOT make up for such a horrendous dump. Of course, the Giants fans will feel at home in that environment.</p>
<p>New Yawkah reputations notwithstanding, Giants fans have little history of issues at the games (Jets fans, on the other hand, had some dicey traditions that have hopefully been reined in with the new stadium.)</p>
<p>Yes, we Giants fans go with that guy from across the Bay, Al Davis, who grew up in Brooklyn: “Just win, baby!” (which we will).</p>
<p>As much as I like the people of San Francisco and the illustrious history of the 49ers, I want them to lose, and lose badly, this weekend. I was appalled at some of the tricky, thuggish plays they pulled off during their game against the Saints. Fans may call it good defense, but any objective observer would not approve of a helmet to helmet collision that knocks someone unconscious early in the game (Pierre Thomas). Thomas never returned to the game and when his body went limp, it was ruled a fumble. When a trick like this is rewarded, do we even wonder if it will be repeated? </p>
<p>With tactics like that is it any wonder that there were so many violent scuffles both on and off the field? I blame bad coaching by Harbaugh as the primary culprit. Just watch his face when it’s on camera. Compare it to his brother’s face during the Ravens/NE game. You can see the ugliness in the SF coach’s expressions and its unfortunate transfer to the game playing on the field. I don’t watch much football so I hadn’t seen the 49ers play in a long time. The old team is more like the current Patriots - a cool, efficient, machine. That’s much more preferable than this goon squad.</p>
<p>Giants all day!!!</p>