girl feeling a little drained, looking for a little help

<p>I didn’t do much my freshman through junior years of high school. I excused my mediocre grades (at a really, really intense prep school with 100 kids/class and most students going either ivy or standford, duke, amherst, tufts, etc) and lack of participation in ECs to the fact that I was intellectual and free spirited and spent all my time reading Nabakov and Milan Kundera in sunny parks. My vague plan was to go out to some school in California and just “be happy.” (I definetly wasn’t happy) The only class I ever really was engaged in was the second half of my US History class, which through some combination of primary sources and academic comparisons showed me a window of time I saw as weighty and important to understand and that understanding to the larger world. The summer after 11th grade, I was driving with my family to my grandparents house in Santa Fe and my father turned on John Kerry’s acceptance speech at the DNC and I found myself sobbing in the back seat of the car. My life was literally never the same after that moment. In my mind, there was a link in what he said between morality and hard work, like there were people in America who were suffering because of inept foreign policy and budget cuts to social programs and if the government and American political system worked hard enough, faced harsh realities of global warming, budget deficits, ethnic factions fostering insurgencies, etc. and worked to fix those problems instead of saying that they didn’t exist, it had the power to ease and abate real suffering. I simply had no excuse for laziness in the face of that realization, and senior year was a blur of being the lead in the fall play, working at a boutique, spending 35+ hours a week campaigning for Kerry (crying for a good half hour on my barren living room floor as he conceeded…) getting a 3.6 first semester and a 4.0 second semester, and not getting into any of the schools I wanted to go to (NYU and Boston College were my first choices) I ended up deciding on University of Vermont mainly because it was in New England and I love New England.<br>
Over the summer I interned at the ACLU with a bunch of Wash U law students (I’m from STL) and helped a professor at Wash U do historical research, while hostessing at night and teaching theatre at a daycamp to make money.
I’m a freshman at University of Vermont now majoring in political science and minoring in history. I got a 3.73 (A-) first semster with two intermediate level classes in history of US foreign relations and literary theory (neither class has ever allowed a freshman in it before) and am in the Political Science honors program and the Dean’s List. I took the new SAT and got Writing 730, Reading 740, Math 620. My SAT 2s were writing 780, Literature 720 and US History 620. I’m co-president of UVM College Democrats and am currently helping organize and coordinate a poverty confrence on campus (John Edwards is going to be our keynote speaker, I’m so excited), and I am one of four people heading the Students Taking Action Now: Darfur project to get the University to divest from companies that invest in Sudan. I intern for Senator Leahy (top Democrat in the Senate in case anyone doesn’t know… he also went to Georgetown law, if that matters at all) for twelve hours every week (they only take one a semster, and they’ve never had one younger than a junior before) The main project I’m doing there is working closely with the State Director (second in command, acts in teh Senators place when he’s in DC) with a renewable energy source proposal by a guy who used to work in the Clinton administration. Basically, I just do research and travel around with the SD to promote the program.
My Russian government professor from last semester is also my advisor and told me that I should transfer to a harder school a month into the first semester, and really, really likes me. I’ve written a lot for his class, and he has a good grasp of my stregthes, and has offered to write me (in his words) an “extrordinary” recommendation for my advsior recommendation. My history of foreign relations professor likes me a lot as well, (I ask interesting questions in class and actually do the reading…) and since he teaches an intermediate class, I think I will get the other rec from him. My international relations professor from last semseter (intro class of 100 students) knew my name by the end of the first week, I talked in class all the time, talked to him about international relations outside of class, etc) let me into his senior seminar political science class for this semester, which is the most advanced poli sci class in the school, and it’s the only class I’ve taken here which I really, really find interesting and engaging, even though about ten of the twenty students in the class (all seniors, all poli sci majors) don’t talk and don’t seem to take it seriously. My other classes this semester are an independent study with a published author who is also a prof. at UVM, the second half of my intermediate level history of foreign relations class, Intro to American Government and Statistics.
I know I can write good essays because there are specific programs and qualities about all the schools I’m applying to that I love (except Wash U and American), and I am visiting all the schools I’m applying to and contacting admissions reps. I am fairly certain that I want to be a campaign manager, but also have interest in foreign policy, so perhaps a foreign policy advsior to campaigns or cabinet member.
These are the schools I’m applying to:</p>

<p>Georgetown
Harvard
Barnard
NYU
American
Wash U (mother works there, tons of family has gone there, they know my high school, some building on campus named after my great uncle)</p>

<p>I guess my problem is I just… feel like I’ve gotten a little lost with all the work and striving. I can’t imagine ever going back to who I was before 12th grade, but I feel like I’m becoming one dimensional, and of the few people I’ve tried to talk to about it, none seem to understand what I’m saying. I’m also terrified I won’t get into the schools I want to go to (really only Harvard, Georgetown and Barnard) I can’t stand the thought of staying here. I’m not sure if the reason I feel like this is because I’m not a match at all for the social or intellectual or actual physical climate of Vermont or if it’s something more. I’m more of a black pants, heels, couple of nice drinks at a bar kind of girl than a revealing top frat party drink beer till you puke kind of girl, I love it when people have informed political opinions of either persuasion and care about politics and/or the larger world and I don’t find that here. I wish I knew people who did more than ski, watch TV, sleep, eat, and occasionally schlep over to classes. I’m the anomality because I care about my grades, the world, etc. Everything is ridiculously messy in the dorms, people are rude to service staff, cafeteria workers, people actually use racial and homophobic slurs here, this is almost zero diversity, ach, I’m dying.<br>
In trying to distance myself from it all as much as I can, I feel like I’ve almost become nothing but the peice of paper that I’m sending to these ad comms with all the hard work I’ve done that is hopefully going to get me away from this place. My parents don’t really understand this and just tell me to do what will make me happy, but what will make me happy is getting away from here and into an enviornment when I’m more in my element (I visited Georgetown in October and had the “this place is IT” moment right when I stepped on campus) and my heart literally ached when we had to pull away from Harvard after a weekend there for a Darfur confrence in December. I was wondering if any of your kids had gone through anything similar, if you had any advice, a litltle support… Thanks so much, I know this was a long and poorly focused post…</p>

<p>Well, there’s been a bit of tumult in your life, so cut yourself some slack. It may have been a bit of a ramble but it was a <em>good</em> ramble. </p>

<p>On the objective side, I think you have a good shot at tranferring to Barnard, a dubious chance for Georgetown, and Harvard…dear, there are hundreds if not thousands with your profile. </p>

<p>No, my D’s path has been remarkably obstacle free, so far, knock on wood, at least in comparison, so I don’t have direct experience.</p>

<p>But, whatever, your “self” has ignited, even if a “slightly late bloomer,” and you have a world of much larger possibilities in front of you than you did two years ago…take solace in that. The road to “fulfillment” may involve periods of frustration and “unhappiness.” While everyone wants to be happy, I think it’s one of the more over-valued emotional currencies out there. I think you’re itching for a more challenging environment…good for you. “You” may settle down when you finally get there…transitions are often messy. </p>

<p>Now to don my “honk” hat: if you’re considering Barnard, check out Smith as well. Among other things, they have a very well established “Semester in D.C.” program that might be up your alley and, while assigments vary, they typically run from July through mid-December. Most do it when they’re a junior but some seniors do as well. You sound as if you have the ambition and the chops to do it…it’s a competitive program that takes a maximum of 12 a year, plus a couple of alternates.</p>

<p>PM me if you want more info. End of commercial for Smith.</p>

<p>You sound like you’re making the best of a not so perfect situation. Yes, my son sounds a lot like you, and if he had gone to college this year, he may have written the email you just posted.</p>

<p>He graduated June '05, and since he didn’t get into the top schools he wanted - he went into a “funk” and convinced us to let him take a year off. He’s been doing some interesting things this year (like currently a legislative intern in Kentucky) - and went through the whole admissions “thing” AGAIN - ugh!! I think it actually turned out to be the right decision for him.</p>

<p>My S was always searching for the “perfect” school. All though his education, he complained about being bored, or about incompetent teachers or bureaucratic administrative nonsense he saw very little need for. Like you, he is very bright, and has high aspirations for his future - possible a career in politics or law. </p>

<p>He also struggles to find students his own age who he can relate to. He loves to go to the opera, and knows no one his own age who would even want to go with him!! I always hoped he would end up at a college with other students he might consider “kindred spirits”. That’s my wish for him.</p>

<p>I will pass along something I have told my son before. It sounds like you and he share a sense of never having the “perfect” situation. Maybe I’m wrong about that, but if this is at all true for you…then it might help to “switch” your way of viewing whatever situation you are in that doesn’t seem to be ideal. What is working? You write about all sorts of positive opportunities and experiences you are having in your present school… sometimes it’s OK to be a “big fish in a little pond.” Maybe you could do your very best in your undergrad. career and “shoot for the moon” for graduate school - Harvard or wherever?! I’d sure hate for you to transfer to another less than perfect school and find that the dorms are just as messy and the students there enjoy drinking beer! Here’s that worn out expression, “the grass isn’t always greener on the other side of the fence.” </p>

<p>I feel sad that you are in a situation that feels “alien” to you. You have a very promising future ahead of you - I know you will eventually find the place that feels right for you. You’re already working hard to get there - getting recommendations from your current faculty, etc. Surely they will write glowing reviews of your potential!! Please let us all know where you end up next year! Or, if you decide to stay where you are and shine as the brightest “superstar” that school has ever seen - that would surely look fabulous on your application for graduate school.</p>

<p>I wish you the very best!!</p>

<p>Mom of another disgruntled bright student</p>

<p>PS Have you made friends at your current school?</p>

<p>You have Gtown, a big reach, and AU where you might not want to go, why not GW?</p>

<p>Thank you so much for all of your responses. That’s so genuinely nice that you take time to reply to students going through hard times…</p>

<p>I think a lot of what all of you have said applies to me. I too, love the opera, one of my best friends wants to be an opera singer and is at Julliard. Maybe one day your son will watch her.
Smith sounds amazing, but a large compotent of what I’m looking for in a school is that it be in a very urban enviornemnt. I miss the city and it’s endlessness here in Burlington.<br>
And NJres, why is Georgetown a big reach? 29 percent get accepted for transfer, my GPA and scores are in their range and my hard classes, good recs, and especially political motivation, leadership and senatorial experience are political. I was just sort of surprised to hear you say it’s a big reach, since my college counselor (who accuretly told me last year I wasn’t going to get in anywhere I wanted to go) said that it was a match leaning slightly towards reach if at all. I looked at GW and didn’t like it much. But thanks anyway!</p>

<p>I wouldn’t say that Georgetown is a <em>big</em> reach for her.</p>

<p>Since you are in New England, take a look at Boston University. My freshman S is a political science major and taking an honors course "Media and Politics in the United States”. He’s discovered his passion for political communication. There are opportunities for Washington, D.C. internships. BU also has a strong international relations department.</p>

<p>I have a couple of young nieces at UVM that feel the same way you do. I think you have a great shot at the schools you are trying for if you get across the spirit and commitment that came through your posting. I second the GW suggestion. Years ago when I went to college, American was my first choice. I ended up going to Drew for financial reason, but loved the choice of a semester in DC. The semester of my junior year at GW was the best of my time in school. Good Luck!!!</p>

<p>For Shagonov: My D had a very similar freshman year as what you describe. She basically got intimidated by the whole college admission process, rejected the idea of “reach” schools (half-heartedly applied to only one, which turned her down, no surprise), then chose the lowest-selective school left. There were good reasons, but ultimately she ignored the party school rep because of the propaganda of “we’re dealing with it, we’re different now.”</p>

<p>When she got there, she was a fish out of water. Honors classes where she was the only one who said anything, 3/4 nights a week of mindless frat-party type drinking whereas she was then a nondrinker, no intellectual curiosity. It was definitely the worst year of school she ever had, but she threw herself into things like you have–very active in Green Party (only frosh out of 4000 to be involved), did PR for a group that was promoting concerts/activities as alternative to drinking (again, only frosh), etc. Got a 4.0 in Honors classes.</p>

<p>Made the decision to look into transfering over Christmas break. Realized that looking for schools where students cared about thinking was not a bad thing to do, but it didn’t come easy–transfering is a scary thing.</p>

<p>Ultimately, applied to 3 colleges–Tufts (reach which had turned her down), Wesleyan, and Oberlin. Accepted by all three, went off to Wes, majored in government–was extremely happy there.</p>

<p>So, I understand what you’re going through, and I think you will most likely get into some of your choices, though I’m not an expert guesser.</p>

<p>I’d throw out Wes as a choice for you, too–you sound like a typical Wes student. I’ts not a city, but it’s in pretty easy reach of NYc.</p>

<p>Tufts seems reasonable too, city school, takes quite a few transfers.</p>

<p>Best wishes to you!</p>

<p>Sorry, I was relying entirely on TheDad’s assessment of chances at Gtown when I called it a “big reach.”</p>

<p>“I wouldn’t say that Georgetown is a <em>big</em> reach for her.”</p>

<p>I wouldn’t say anyplace is a big reach for this woman. Reading her post here, I see someone who is able to plot a course out of error and make big accomplishments in very little time.</p>

<p>I think, Shaganov, you really need to take a look at yourself and see who you really are. That ought to cheer you up and help you hang in there. I know what you feel because I am in something like this myself at the moment. And it gets old and wearisome. You tend to feel like you are in a dungeon and that there is no real way out, and that maybe you are just spinning your wheels with no real hope of reaching your dreams.</p>

<p>Well, the great thing is in trying to get out, not in actually getting out. It is the actual trip you are on right now that is wonderful. The struggle itself is what has made you what you are. So just set your goal. Go ahead and shoot for Harvard, but you really need to look beyond Harvard. Then just keep pushing forward no matter what happens and no matter what anyone else says. I learned this from a kid, too naive to see what I thought was “reality”. It works.</p>

<p>Just keep going.</p>

<p>For Shaganov - Loved your ramble. I’m the last person to tell anyone what’s a right or wrong choice. But if my daughter asked here’s what I’d say: “There are few times in your life when you can pick up and pursue your passion, but this is one of those times so go for it!” I’m not as pessimistic about your chances at Barnard or Georgetown as some responders. I believe your passion and growth will go a long way toward overcoming your academic credentials (which are very good but “middle of the pack” for schools like Georgetown and Barnard). Enthusiastic support from UVM faculty should help also.</p>

<p>I am confused about one thing. If a passionate urban educational environment strong in advocacy is your goal, why did American U make your list whereas GW did not? </p>

<p>Best of luck to you!</p>

<p>Many who have visited AU have found it underwhelming compared to the other schools, particularly with respect to the general academic atmosphere.</p>

<p>Drossey, as with all admissions, do not look at the strengths of the candidate without taking into account the strengths of the competition. G’town is brutal, in the next band down after HYPS territory.</p>

<p>Well I’ll be!
This kid hit my mind PLENTY of times since last February. In fact, I was just thinking of her and decided I’d finally PM her to see how she is getting on. Well, it seems I can put my little mind to rest. Congrats, kid. I knew you had this in you.</p>

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<p>Congrats to her!! I love a happy ending!!</p>

<p>All I can say is – lucky Harvard.</p>

<p>So you: went to a prep school with 100 kids; p****d away three years visualizing yourself as an intellectual because you read Nabokov in the park; just figured you’d be happy eventually at some college in California; then chose Vermont because you like New England; mama and papa just want to see you happy; after a year at UVM you decide to get serious; and now you’re crying into your two drinks in the bar in your heels and black sweater because you want to go to Harvard and you may not get the chance?</p>

<p>(And everyone on CC loves you because you adore Kerry and Edwards and have high SAT scores?)</p>

<p>Sorry if I sound mean, but my reaction to your post is: Phhleeeze.</p>

<p>Yes, you do sound mean.</p>

<p>Congrats, For Shagonov. Have a great time there!</p>

<p>Congrats, For Shaganov! I also like happy endings.</p>

<p>I did say “sorry.” I just feel bad for the kids who have been working toward that goal since middle school…and don’t make it. Seems a bit unfair to me, somehow. Wonder if her “passion” was for Bush and Santorum if she would have made it in? :)</p>