Girl Kills Self Over Relationship with Fraudulent Myspace Member

<p>I know someone whose teen-aged son committed suicide after being bullied through the Internet. I don’t understand how people can be so cruel to others.</p>

<p>"AP–DARDENNE PRAIRIE, Mo. - Megan Meier thought she had made a new friend in cyberspace when a cute teenage boy named Josh contacted her on MySpace and began exchanging messages with her.</p>

<p>Megan, a 13-year-old who suffered from depression and attention deficit disorder, corresponded with Josh for more than a month before he abruptly ended their friendship, telling her he had heard she was cruel.</p>

<p>The next day Megan committed suicide. Her family learned later that Josh never actually existed; he was created by members of a neighborhood family that included a former friend of Megan’s…"
[Mom:</a> Girl killed herself over online hoax - Internet - MSNBC.com](<a href=“http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21844203/]Mom:”>http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21844203/)</p>

<p>I just read this tragic story in the paper. What makes it all the more disgusting is that one of the persons involved in creating the fake cyberspace character is a mother (not just her child).</p>

<p>Wow, another twisted use of My Space. One of my daughters uses my space, AIM and face book, and though I’ve warned her that some parents probably have access and might be reading things she writes, I never thought a parent might be actually corresponding, masquerading as a kid or, in this case, a fictitious identity.</p>

<p>Oh that is so sad and sick for a friend’s parent to befriend you, pretending that they liked you. None of my kids use Myspace anymore. My 2 college going kids just use Facebook, and only talk to people they know. </p>

<p>I guess any online forum can be dangerous, if you are not wise to the possibilities.</p>

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<p>Precisely. It’s a tragedy what happened to that girl, but at the same time I’m a bit reluctant to blame the web site. You HAVE to realize that you never know who you’re talking to. I’m sorry those people played a joke on that girl, and obviously she was very depressed, but it’s not MySpace’s fault. MySpace in itself is an amazing resource for keeping in touch with friends after you or they have graduated/moved away/etc. It’s what the stupid people do on MySpace/facebook/any other web site that gives it a bad name.</p>

<p>My kid is losing interest in My Space and tending to use Face Book now, which I like because her college age brother and sister and cousins all use it, and they keep in touch. </p>

<p>But I know very little about Face Book. How similar is it to My Space? What are the differences?</p>

<p>^I’ve heard from my D that facebook is for the older crowd.</p>

<p>I don’t blame Myspace. I blame the people who participated in the on-line bullying.</p>

<p>It amazes me how mean people can be. It’s bad enough that kids probably were involved in the hoax, but it’s appalling that a mother apparently was involved in it.</p>

<p>In the situation that I’m personally familiar with, a student committed suicide after a bully posted all sorts of lies about him including saying the teen was gay, saying the teen was saying mean things about the teen’s friends, etc. </p>

<p>I met the teen’s mom and friends when I helped them lobby to tighten state laws against bullying. All said that the teen who committed suicide was an unusually nice person, a gentle, sensitive soul. They are fairly sure that they know who the bullier was, and they said that teen has shown to their knowledge no remorse, and that teen’s parents also seem to think that the teen who killed himself was to blame for not having a tougher skin.</p>

<p>As a mother, if your child is getting “feelings” and attachments to someone on the internet they have never met, its our responsibility to check it out and to have a discussion with our child about NOT trusting ANYONE online you have never met…and sadly, to approach those kinds of friendships with extreme caution</p>

<p>As for the family that did the hoax, this is where shunning is appropriate, not matter what the supposed motivations were…</p>

<p>It isn’t myspaces fault…but a sick family who was selfish beyond belief, and I hope that their world shrinks in size</p>

<p>What a tragic story!</p>

<p>I agree that it’s silly to blame the website. It has nothing to do with that; it’s just a vehicle. Unfortunately, cruel people can use anything to get to their hapless victim.</p>

<p>As one who was very sensitive and got bullied a lot as a child, this story struck close to home. I don’t recall ever actually considering suicide, but I can understand how easy it could be for a young teen. It’s a very vulnerable time, especially for the sensitive ones.</p>

<p>It would be wise for parents to heed this story and pay special attention to your teen’s moods. Never take anything for granted. It’s really tragic when a teen commits suicide and the parent noticed his/her depression but didn’t take it seriously. And, some antidepressants actually can increase the risk of suicide, so it’s especially important if the child is on meds.</p>

<p>Northstarmom – I find both of your stories very sad. </p>

<p>A lot of kids don’t share what is going on with their parents. It begs the question, how snoopy should parents be? If the kids aren’t sharing what is going on on these sites, should the parents resort to snooping? How does a parent find out if there is something inappropriate going on?</p>

<p>Some say it is not the site’s <em>fault</em>, but there are so many kids that aren’t even 14 years old opening My Space accounts, which is against their policy – why can’t something be done to curb that, at least? I don’t know how 11 , 12 and 13 year olds (or many 14 and 15 year olds for that matter) can be expected to be savvy enough protect themselves against this sort of stuff? It is way too easy to open a My Space account and falsify things, IMO.</p>

<p>It is impossible for a site to regulate who signs up for an account. It could be a 12-year-old pretending to be 15, or worse, a 30-year-old man pretending to be 15.</p>

<p>Obviously, there is nothing we can do about the 30-year-old man. But parents must take responsibility for what their children are doing online. </p>

<p>In our home, when my kids were younger, I had to log them on. I am the administrator, and the password is only known to me. If they had homework that needed the computer, I logged them on. Sure, they listen to music, IM their friends etc.</p>

<p>The computer is also in a location where I can easily see what’s going on. I don’t snoop, and have never felt the need to. But I have talked to my kids ad nauseam about the dangers lurking behind the screen, read them stories of kidnappings, send them links to internet crimes.</p>

<p>If I don’t, who will?</p>

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Facebook was originally open just to college students, and though today anyone can get a Facebook, college students are still seen as the base population. Generally when someone gets a Facebook, they join a network. At first the only networks were different colleges, so there’s a Bates network and a Harvard network, etc. Today there are also high school networks, professional networks (i.e. JP Morgan, Cisco), and regional networks (i.e. Boston, MA). You can be on multiple networks. You need to actually be a member of your network in real life in order to join; for a college network, you need a college email address. The minimum privacy setting would allow anyone in your network to see your profile. Many, many people change this so that only their approved “friends” can see their profile pictures. This makes Facebook a lot less sketchy than MySpace. I have never heard of people making friends on Facebook who they don’t know in real life, though I guess it probably happens in regional networks with the younger crowd. To be friends with someone, both partners must approve the friendship. If you want, you can set it so certain friends can only see a Limited Profile–like if mom friends you, the student can block certain photo albums from showing up, or if someone you don’t know well friends you, you can block your “contact information.” Until recently, Facebook also had a very set design. On MySpace, everyone’s pages look different, pages have music in the background, pictures everywhere, etc. All Facebook profiles are set up the same, though people can leave fields blank and, in a recent development, can add “applications” which are extra features that can be added to a profile. So, Facebook looks classier and more professional than MySpace, which makes it appeal to an older crowd, and it is also more secure.</p>

<p>Tks. corranged. Anyway, I feel better about the Facebook because the brother, the sister and the cousins are all on that one, not on the My Space, which is all younger kids in her case. After reading this, I did sit down with my high school aged daughter and have her show me the Facebook friends, which she did. </p>

<p>She didn’t want to have me spend a lot of time looking, but I noticed that all the friends have a school name attached to them – either high school or college. She says she does not have any friends she has not met IRL, so that is reassuring.</p>

<p>There was an ugly incident at her school with Facebook recently. I don’t know all the details, but someone posted some racial slurs on someone’s Facebook page. Her school took it very seriously and held an assembly about it. I don’t know how they found out who did it, but apparently that kid is no longer attending school there. He left the school, my daughter tells me. I’m sure the incident and the seriousness in how the school dealt with it made a big impression on the kids at her school.</p>

<p>This story absolutely appalls and disgusts me. I hope fervently that the newspaper that is covering the story publishes the name of the evil adult that took part in this, so that she will have to live publicly, for the rest of her life, with the consequences of her revolting actions.</p>

<p>I heard this story on the radio. I don’t know the full story, just what the mom told. But it sounded very tragic. It’s ridiculous that the family who made the fake myspace account didn’t get any punishment for it, because the issue does not fall under any law.</p>

<p>I only befriend anyone on Facebook (I deleted my Myspace account) who I know in person. And my profile is set to private, so no one can see my personal info unless I allow them to. Yay me. :)</p>

<p>Northstarmom, these are two tragic stories. I appreciate Coarranged for the concise update on Facebook v. MySpace. The technology train moves so fast I can’t keep up with it without younger help.</p>

<p>I’m wondering whether there could be a lawsuit against the mother in the news article who knowingly sanctioned (by allowing it to continue) her own child’s friendship circle to harass a young person. She let them pose as “Josh” for their personal merriment. If I were the family who lost the child, I"d have my lawyer go over every single message in her computer. If any legal lines were crossed, the mother might be held liable and pay damages forever for the pain and suffering she caused that family. It would have to reallly cross a legal line, I guess, just as parents can be held accountable if someone drinks underage in their home. </p>

<p>Regarding the family NStarmom knows personally, who lost a child to suicide when bullying likely played a large role, it is the typical weasly response of the family to say the victim caused his own sorrow. Part of anti-bullying education is to teach kids strategies so they do not become easy targets for a bully. But this doesn’t remove responsibility from the bullly. If we take street-defense training and get mugged, the mugger is still the one who did wrong, even if there are “ways” to defend against him somewhat.</p>

<p>My S in NYC works with an anti-bullying project in middle schools over in Brooklyn or the Bronx, I forget which. Professional actors stage a play in the school auditorium, then go into classrooms to facilitate classroom discussions among students about their observations. It’s a non-profit organization, a good project. </p>

<p>An important discovery after the Columbine shootings was that the shooters’ alienation began when they were bullied during middle school. It’s a very serious problem. The principal there put out the message that the most valuable thing a “good” kid can do is to make the school aware of anyone they know who does not feel part of the school family, for any reason. I guess today the cyber-bullying is another way to marginalize a kind student. There are other tools, too, including text messaging with a kind of ambush approach.</p>

<p>For parents of good kids, please tell yours to let the school guidance office or principal know if anyone is the victim of bullying, or put more subtly in the principal’s words from Columbine, “Doesn’t feel part of the school family” for whatever reason. It’s a bad feeling for the good kids when they know things are wrong and feel helpless to act. The research shows that bullies only buckle when a more powerful (adult) confronts them, since they only understand power. Your good kid can’t dissuade a bully in his midst; they must bring in an adult. </p>

<p>Many bullies were bullied themselves, some by parents. So when their own kid is the bully, the parents are the first to defend the actions they recognize very well, by blaming the victim. That’s what the family NStarmom knows experienced. It’s a double injustice.</p>

<p>Today’s NYT had some more details. I hope this link works: [A</a> Hoax Turned Fatal Draws Anger but No Charges - New York Times](<a href=“http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/28/us/28hoax.html?em&ex=1196398800&en=b1408a7356b77eef&ei=5087 ]A”>http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/28/us/28hoax.html?em&ex=1196398800&en=b1408a7356b77eef&ei=5087 ). If not, you can search for the title “A Hoax Turned Fatal Draws Anger but No Charges”.</p>

<p>It’s stomach-turning, stunning, dismaying. The FBI investigated. Apparently no law was broken.</p>

<p>Don’t worry though, I’m sure the woman’s life is hell right now, since here address was found and placed on the Internet by any number of bloggers.</p>