girls run the honors classes.

<p>Calc and physics seem to have more boys than girls (we have 7 girls and about 40 guys in my AP Physics class - that’s actually two sections). Other than that, we’re pretty equal.</p>

<p>there is anecdotal sceitnefic evidence reguarding IQ discrepancies between the sex’s, i’m not sure about race.</p>

<p>In my school it depends on where one is: Spanish III H had 24 girls and four boys (me as one of them); the following year, Spanish IV (Language) AP was even at 6 girls, 6 boys. In the first AP Chem class, the ratio is 13 boys to 12 girls; in the second, 12 to none (the sole girl dropped out Wednesday). Math, English, and all History and Economics courses are even. If it is divided by race, blacks/half-blacks make up about 10% of the participants in AP; all but four are women in the 11th grade, which contains 14 available APs, again of which I am one. Whites are mainly even otherwise (without AP Chem exception), and there are two Korean boys in the grade, so there is not much of a ratio.</p>

<p>I’d say girls outnumber guys in my AP classes between 3-5 to 1, 3 in the math classes usually. Not to say I believe in the stereotype at all, but the guys at my school do seem to be better at math coincidentally, though there are a couple girls who could kill me at math.</p>

<p>I don’t have a problem with girls running the honors classes. They have to put up with plenty of male superiority when it shouldn’t be there, so we can put up with it too guys.</p>

<p>Come on just step it up and make a higher grade than the girls. Don’t whine about them.</p>

<p>I mean seriously guys, are you straight? Honors courses can be a good place to meet girls.</p>

<p>gatordan, IQ tests are hardly a good description for one’s intelligence. The ones I’ve taken have ranged from 120 to 180. Now, don’t tell me that’s not a wide range. :stuck_out_tongue: :)</p>

<p>do you have a better form of measurement? No obviously it’s not perfect, but a professionally administered test is pretty good at what it’s meant for.</p>

<p>No, I don’t have one, but it doesn’t make it an accurate one. =)
IQ test results for most people I know are sorta like lightning… they never strike near the same score…</p>

<p>With that said, there’s probably a gene that relates to intelligence potential… once/if we find it, well, then there will be a much better way.</p>

<p>ps - Isn’t the SAT supposed to be an IQ test? I never thought so, since you can improve up to 400 points by studying…</p>

<p>I just looked up some IQ tests that were given to see which sex was more intelligent. Half said women were, the other half said men, but all of them had differences of only three or four points. Sounds to me like there is no significant difference.</p>

<p>The SAT I believe was derived from two intelligence tests in the early 1900s, the Stanford-Binet and the one by the Army. However, we all know what it has become today.
There is a whole book, titled The Mismeasure of Man, that debunks all of the “reasoning” used to detrmine diffrences in intelligence between blacks and whites. I have not read the full book, but I believe it may also adress the issue of sex IQ difference.
There was also an article in Scientific American about this sometime earlier in 2005 (possibly March or April). I believe it said that there were differences in the processes of acquiring information between the two genders, but not in IQ.</p>

<p>“Let me tell you something, you need intellect and a good work ethic to be successful, and being a lazy genius will most likely get you nowhere. So stop trying to rationalize your own low ranks/G.P.A.'s by telling yourselves that you are “naturally” smarter. Heh.”</p>

<p>I agree. I share contempt for intelligent lazy people in general. Can’t wait for them to flunk out of college and be forced to start working hard for the first time in thier life. That is, if daddy doesn’t take them in and let them live at his house till they’re 40.</p>

<p>Well, I’m one of the lazy people that you dislike. The thing is, whenever I have to, or whenever a subject interests me, I step it up. It’s always funny when people get surprised that I often do better than the number 1s, 2s, 3s, etc of my class.</p>

<p>edit - I’ve worked since I was a freshmen, pay for my own gas and help pay for my family expenses. Most of the people with a better “work ethic” than me don’t know the meaning of hard work. ANd I hate favors.</p>

<p>“I’ve worked since I was a freshmen, pay for my own gas and help pay for my family expenses. Most of the people with a better “work ethic” than me don’t know the meaning of hard work. ANd I hate favors.”</p>

<p>I definitely wouldn’t consider you lazy.</p>

<p>Academically lazy, that I am.</p>

<p>The sole reason why I went into honors classes was because of the huge discrepency between guys and girls. On average for my humanties realated classes it was 15:5 girls:boys and science it was about even. Interesting to note however, that the top 10 were pretty evenly matched. It was something like this:</p>

<ol>
<li>Girl</li>
<li>Boy</li>
<li>Boy</li>
<li>Girl</li>
<li>Boy</li>
<li>Girl</li>
<li>Girl</li>
<li>Girl</li>
<li>Boy</li>
<li>Girl</li>
<li>Boy</li>
</ol>

<p>Also I’ve been one of those “academically lazy but semi-intelliegent” people. If it didnt interest me in HS, I didnt give a crap and didnt do my work. Needless to say that was shown in my GPA. Sadly for college I’ve had to step it up. :(</p>

<p>grrr!!!</p>

<p>Our current top of the class individual is a girl, who’s 1/477</p>

<p>Second is a male…</p>

<p>I’m 3rd (I’m a guy)</p>

<p>For Calc BC and AP Physics, guys tend to outnumber the girls (40 guys in AP physics, zero girls). We also outnumber girls in AP chem by a smaller margin (maybe 3:2). Girls outnumber us in AP Bio, AP English/History classes.</p>

<p>Our val is a girl, and I think that sal too. I (a male) could have been contender but didn’t do too well my first year or two. Anyway, as for AP classes…</p>

<p>The majority tend to be girls, but I’ve found that boys (not all of them, a few) are usually the smartest in the class (with a couple exceptions). </p>

<p>For example, there’s a girl in Calc BC in my honors physics class… and she is only decent at physics. Since physics is basically all math, I’d expect her to burn through it (regular honors level class too). Me and two of my friends (both guys) are about 5 worksheets ahead of the class and finish long webassigns in about 2 or 3 days, while the rest of the class takes 2 weeks. We rarely pay attention in class and mostly talk the entire time. But the teacher is cool, he doesn’t mind because he knows we are far ahead of the class. If not for the fact that AP Physics has very different material (does it?), we might have decided to move up to AP. I wonder if we still can.</p>

<p>But as for our val, she is a girl who is genuinely/extremely smart, though a lot of people at the top of the class at my school don’t like to learn and are not as smart as you’d think they would be… they just have good academic work ethic.</p>

<p>there are more girls…especially in classes like history and english…but i take quality over quantity any day</p>

<p>I think the “girls work hard but guys are smart” is a cop-out. I see the job interview now…
Q: So, why should I hire you?
GUY: Well, even though I’m a lazy slacker, I have an IQ over 150. I have sssooo much potential… I just really like my PS2.
Q: I see. And why should I hire you?
GIRL: My IQ is <em>only</em> 130, but I will put in long hours, bring a creative approach, be personable to those I work with and not give up until I have done my job to the best of my ability.</p>

<p>Gee whiz, who are you going to hire?</p>

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<p>There’s some decent evidence to suggest that men are <em>on average</em> better at certain mental tasks and women at others, but the discrepancies are tiny. Normally the greater male variance is much more evident; as you look higher and higher (or lower and lower) on the “intelligence” or “ability” scale (however you choose to measure it - no test is perfect, but it’s hard to deny that some portion of intelligence is innate) you find a larger and larger ratio of men to women. Without worrying about differences in the mean, this alone accounts for discrepancies between, say, number of male and female university professors. To a lesser degree it also fits with the anecdotes people keep bringing up the “smartest” few in the class being male, even though the numbers are about equal in AP classes.</p>