Gluten or Putin, who knows?

<p>@DrGoogle Now I see that this entire text is from the DaSilva Institute of Anti-Aging, Regenerative & Functional Medicine <a href=“About Us - DaSilva Institute – Sarasota, FL”>http://www.dasilvainstitute.com/about-us&lt;/a&gt; </p>

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<p>Might be helpful if you cite the authorship of big blocks of text that you quote.</p>

<p>Oh goodness, dr google, this is laughable - "Today, Borlaug’s wheat varieties dominate the entire US supply. Coincidentally, the rates of autoimmune diseases have risen from 21% in 1975 to an incredible 93% in 2000. "</p>

<p>1) 93% of people have autoimmune disease? Huh? That doesn’t pass the smell test.<br>
2) “coincidentally”? That’s real scientific – not. </p>

<p>Can I just thank the OP for the thread name on this discussion? It makes me giggle every time I scroll through the Parent Cafe list. </p>

<p>Sorry you guys, I was getting depressed thinking of work Monday. I posted quickly going to bed, not even reading what I posted.
But I think what I was going to write, there has been no test on the new type of wheat and how the effect on people in general, which was what mentioned in the Wheat Belly book. But what is alarming is the rate of diabetes, Alzheimer’s happening to people around us.
A dad of my daughter’s best friend who always trailing class after class with me because his son took the same class that my daughter took and is now diagnosed as having Alzheimer’s disease, that he is no longer able practice medicine, that was like 5 years ago, so I was extra nervous about all this stuff I eat. I’m off this thread because I won’t have access to CC at work.</p>

<p>Oh my – we should have a pool to see how many more posts before a mod closes the thread :)</p>

<p>Celiac diagnosis has always been higher elsewhere (in Italy and Australia, for example) , where screening is done at higher rates. It has risen in the US over the past decade largely due to better tests (so fewer false positives), and better awareness (doctors know more about it, so misdiagnose less often; patients have heard of it and ask to be screened) and more funding for celiac centers (Mayo, Maryland) “Autoimmune illness” includes everything from diabetes to Reynaud’s to Hashimoto’s to Celiac disease. My wordy point being, I don’t think anything is happening differently due to food, just due to diagnosis. And snake oil hucksters convincing people to buy their latest book. :)</p>

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<p>No test but a heck of a lot of assumptions, then?</p>

<p>Actually, the proteins of new wheat varieties are extensively tested, and no differences can be detected from old varieties that would account for any of these drastic and dramatic claimed outcomes.</p>

<p>Snake oil is exactly the right word - say something dramatic, frightening, and wrong which puts you in opposition to big, bad, science, sell books.</p>

<p>It is really easy to spook people with something they don’t understand. Is painting of gluten as the latest evil a plot by the food industry to sell more sugar to folks who dumped the sugar-laden processed foods in favor of wholesome produce? The explosive growth of gf products on the supermarket shelves says that this is not too far-fetched. </p>

<p>I don’t think it is a food industry plot, because GM, maize, sugars, fats and all sorts of things are being attacked in the same sorts of ways.</p>

<p>I suspect it is a plot by Big Quinoa to take over as the only acceptable food source.</p>

<p>"Is painting of gluten as the latest evil a plot by the food industry to sell more sugar to folks who dumped the sugar-laden processed foods in favor of wholesome produce? The explosive growth of gf products on the supermarket shelves says that this is not too far-fetched. "
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I worked in marketing / marketing research in the food industry for over a decade. There are no nefarious plots. Sadly for the American diet, the average American person simply isn’t interested in apples, oranges, fresh vegetables, lean protein, etc. They’d rather have processed foods. </p>

<p>^^ because the American consumers have been conditioned to love the processed foods by being constantly bombarded with ads for cookies, cereal, fruit snacks, cool whip etc. - products containing highly addictive fat and/or sugar - since their childhood? “Plot” is an exaggeration, but seriously, if the ads did not work, would they be continued to be used? </p>

<p>I dont watch network tv, is that where the ads are?
We are genetically programmed to like fat & sugar for survival, I wouldnt blame our obesity epidemic on ads, but on things like school systems which eliminate recess, city planners which assume everyone will be driving a car and industries which dont allow time for exercise break throughout the day for otherwise sedentary workers.
My husband eats fat & sugar every day ( maple bar & breakfast sandwich every morning), but he is slim and athletic looking because his job is physical.
If he was chained to a desk, he would probably look like most middle aged guys.(is 60 still middle aged?)</p>

<p>Its been a concern for sometime according to Socrates.</p>

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<p>“I dont watch network tv, is that where the ads are?”</p>

<p>EK, please don’t tell that you have never seen a billboard asvertising processed food or junk drinks like Pepsi or an ad in the paper. The marketing folks (yeah, I know something about marketing, too) are pretty good at positioning the messages so even folks like you who claim to never ever touch MSM get their fair share of ads. </p>

<p>As far as we don’t move as much, that’s mostly bunk. We might move less than we used to, but we consume disproportionally more. A marathoner like me burns 2600 calories in 4 hours - I’m not super fast, so it takes me that long to run the 26 miles. I cannot run a marathon every day, but I can easily eat a couple of slices of cake plus a bowl of ice cream and a burger for lunch… You get the idea. </p>

<p>I highly recommend watching Fed Up (it is playing at the Varsity this week). While I do not agree with everything in the movie, I agree with the main message - cut the sugar out of your life. In the movie, Robert Lustig gives a very simple explanation why human bodies react differently to equal amounts of sucrose in soda and sucrose in fruit: it is all about local concentration. Sugars from fruit absorb slowly because fiber prevents fast absorption, but wih soda the liver gets an instant jolt of sugars and begins to do what it is programmed to do in such situations: pack that sugar away for future use (which almost never comes since we no longer have to run from those saber tooth tigers). </p>

<p>Ads on sides of buses or billboards i do not retain past the nth of a second it takes to get past them, so I probably am not who the advertisers are looking for.</p>

<p>We dont drink soda, or even alcohol usually ( my H not all all) and only buy juice every other month, but I dont see ourselves as that different from most other people I know.</p>

<p>EK, we are not talking about you or you particular family here. If everyone in the US did not dink sodas, walked 5 miles daily, grew own veggies, did not watch network TV, etc. we probably would be a different bunch of people. </p>

<p>“because the American consumers have been conditioned to love the processed foods by being constantly bombarded with ads for cookies, cereal, fruit snacks, cool whip etc. - products containing highly addictive fat and/or sugar - since their childhood? “Plot” is an exaggeration, but seriously, if the ads did not work, would they be continued to be used?”</p>

<p>Advertising only works to pull out latent desires that people have. I could advertise Brussels sprouts on the Super Bowl and people will still prefer Doritos. Those of us in the advertising and marketing businesses only <em>wish</em> we could bombard you with ads, LOL. </p>

<p>I would use a broader term than just desires (e.g., fear mongering is also very efficient way to deliver a powerful message), but I agree - advertisement for junk works well because sugar and fat are highly addictive. It is basic physiology. Throw in some chocolate flavoring and add a cute critter or a cartoon character, and all kids will want the “magic snack”. Add a message to the parents that it is nutritious and wholesome, throw in some support from dietitians, and you have a gazillion dollar winner - like the crap the infamous cartooon tiger charater used to peddle.</p>

<p>BTW - I’m an outlier when it come to sweet taste, but salt and fat get me all the time. ;)</p>

<p>I dont think it is because of ads.
I think our culture is too estranged from things that give satisfaction. Working with your hands, getting up when the sun comes up and adapting to the seasons. ( obviously oversimplifying)
We overeat, overtrain, overconsume,…because we are trying to get away from the empty feeling inside.
But we are going about it wrong.
Cant get off the treadmill.</p>