Good Business undergrad programs that match these stats??

I’m thinking specifically either International Business or Marketing.
I’ve seen a list of schools that have the most prestigious business programs, but I’m also interested in the particular traits about each program that make it unique. If you any experience in the subject please respond. I’m only going to give a few stats such as GPA and SAT I in order to give you a brief overview of my capabilities as far as being accepted into which ever school you recommend.

White male, junior.
Come from a very prestigious public school in New Jersey, approximately 80 in the nation according to Newsweek

GPA: 98.2059 (Junior year is about a 101 so far so this will go up come the end of this year)
SAT: 2090 (CR 720, W 690, M 680 - this was second time, took again in December but I still have to wait a week or so to get my results)

Have you asked your parents how much they’ll spend? Or will they pay $65k+ per year for any school you want?

Too soon to worry. Play sports, go to the prom, do volunteer work and worry next year.

OP, it is good to see what may be out there. Look at what others are doing and their decision process. Visit various schools of interest - see if you like a particular kind of campus or a school in a particular kind of setting. Make a personal spread sheet to sort out your impressions and the key things you are looking for.

If you can pay top dollar and are seeking the most prestigious programs, or if you are looking for education value and where you can attend a great program within a budget.

I am always surprised at some parents who are totally public school mode through HS and then will pay for a ‘top program’ while others seek to have a student very well educated through HS and then look with an open mind at what is available and the cost/benefit.

Buy the current US News “Find the Best Colleges for You” 2016 edition ($29.95, can order through Barnes and Nobles) or subscribe on-line. Lots of information, including “Best Business Programs”.

As you gain knowledge and get closer to finishing senior year in about 17 or 18 months, your impressions may change and your interests/desires may change.

Also, if you haven’t taken the ACT, I would recommend taking it once just to see how your scores compare to SAT (there is a concordance chart).

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/11/27/why-top-journalists-are-better-educated-than-billionaires/?tid=sm_fb

this article has good food for thought.

@SOSConcern And this means what exactly?

“I am always surprised at some parents who are totally public school mode through HS and then will pay for a ‘top program’ while others seek to have a student very well educated through HS and then look with an open mind at what is available and the cost/benefit.”

H and I value our children’s education - so they needed a really good foundation. MS builds on Elementary, HS builds on MS.

All was private, except DD2 attended 7-8-9 public school which gave her the best education for that period. We are in a school district that both HSs are in top 10 for our state, but my DDs got the best education for them at the school we had them attend.

Some students do have a difficult time transitioning from HS to college/university. Mine did not. H and I did not. I am first generation and the first to complete college from my nuclear family (even though 3rd child - older siblings started when I did), and completed double major on time, eight semesters with honors.

I have seen some parents who didn’t seem to pay much attention (or resources) to their kids through HS, but then had an open wallet for their student going to a high priced school so they would ‘succeed’ (whatever their definition of that is…).

You mention you are attending a prestigious school, so I imagine your parents have a mind set somewhat like mine as far as gaining a good foundation (and they perhaps have the resources to do a lot more for you).

I know quite a lot about higher ed (two graduate business degrees in two different states from home state with UG degree), and our family has limited financial resources w/o making sacrifices. We have not attended ‘elite’ universities, but are very well educated. My nephew, who is the most academically talented of our family as far as his aptitude and higher ed fulfillment - is continuing his education in law after teaching tenure track (has PhD, dissertation is a book published both hardcover and paperback due to university demand in the field, was a Rhodes finalist, published in his field, etc etc). He is #2 in his law class and a large NY firm courted him for an internship next summer which he accepted - he turned down two other solid opportunities including a Chicago firm. He did attend a well ranked private college for UG in his home state with half scholarship (he tipped his hand too much about wanting to attend there, and he was more successful there than students with a larger scholarship) - he said reading and writing were what he learned to do well as an UG (he had a triple major and was summa cum laud) - he worked hard but was also in a very good learning env’t for him. His parents value education, and both parents are well educated.

Older DD will graduate in the spring, on time, at one in-state University. The other is attending flagship in-state University. Both had scholarships and both will be graduating debt free. Neither is studying business for UG, although DD2 is in STEM MBA program so is completing some coursework as UG on a MBA track.

I hope this give you some insight in answering your question.

Our family values education, but looks at it with cost/benefit. We also don’t like education debt. Nephew has full academic scholarship in law school and has not debt. Your parents may be able to fund out of pocket whatever school you can gain admittance to, but they may be looking at cost/benefit - or have you seek out a more prestigious program for graduate degree.

DD1 will most likely attend a graduate program, but is going to work in her field first - she has several programs she is considering. DD2 plans to finish a graduate degree.

@SOSConcern

That’s great and all, but it seems all you want to do is brag about your family and name drop rather than answer this kid’s question. Quite frankly, nobody really cares…

@OP Look at schools like Bentley, Babson, NYU Stern, UMich Ross, UT Austin McCombs, and Notre Dame (assuming you can bring the SAT up, because you probably will).

I think I did answer OP’s question.

Are you a student @oberyn ? What is your perspective except for name dropping schools? Oh, by the way, I attended TAMU as a grad business student, and yes UT Austin had the ranked school for business, and still does, but TAMU has been able to grow in many ways and provided a great education.

I know a business owner that graduated from Notre Dame. She directed her older son to a 5th year prep and then into the best school he could qualify for. She won’t do that for her second son. She has a better perspective. I think she pushed S1 to his academic limit/capability and I think she realizes his career probably won’t be positively affected by that push.

Some students want to attend a school within their geographic region, some want a particular type of school.

It all depends on what parents are willing to pay for, or what kind of debt beyond merit or other scholarships.

My perspective is ‘the cream rises to the top’.

To get back to the OP’s question, you can consider many schools. Look at the list below and do some research into which schools interest you and are affordable. I think other than Wharton, you could have a shot at most of the schools on the list (some would be reaches, but that is OK).
http://poetsandquantsforundergrads.com/2014/07/01/2014-pq-ranking-of-the-best-undergraduate-business-programs/2/

Wow @happy1 I found that comparative list quite informative. It should also help OP. To me, use more of the $$ on graduate school if one is looking for the high ranking and how the school ranking may help in long time career success.

@cbow17 Richmond, Fordham, Scranton, Loyola Maryland, Bucknell, Villanova, Lehigh. Wake Forest should be on your list. Right now you are on the B list of the top tier programs. For elite programs you will need 2200+.

@SOSConcern I’m glad you found the list helpful. And although it is not part of the OP’s question I respectfully disagree with your premise that gong to t top undergrad program is not as important if you are considering grad school. The undergrad will help you to get a good job and work experience as well as having a strong undergraduate track record are two key components of MBA school admission. Just look at this list of schools that are the top feeders to Wharton’s MBA program. .http://poetsandquants.com/2011/08/07/top-feeder-schools-to-whartons-mba-program/

@happy1 there are many very bright and very motivated people that can afford to get into ‘top’ undergrad program, and who then may continue into a ‘top’ MBA program. If parents don’t want to spend the $$ or the $$ is not there, it is a moot point. OP has not answered that question. There are a few others following this thread.

Many careers in business are more fast track with a STEM UG - three of my HS classmates who have been very financially successful in their careers had their MBA after engineering and architecture degrees. DD is in an engineering program with completing courses in UG to feed into MBA with her university. Had I chosen to complete an accounting track in my MBA, I could have had a very successful career in a large accounting firm utilizing my nursing UG degree - as I ‘understood’ hospitals and medical quite well. I liked cost accounting and some lower level practical applications and realized I was not into accounting enough for that career.

The Washington Post Nov 27, 2015 made some good take away comments in the Billionaires/top college article “It’s hard to measure things like grit, or creativity - or intelligence that’s literally off the charts.”

“Students at elite colleges do have access to powerful social networks.” also

“Parents…expect the elite-college brand to confer a competitive advantage.”

For the most part, it is up to the parents funding if a student is able to get into various ‘top’ programs.

@SOSConcern I think we are generally in agreement.

I would not suggest that anyone go to a school that a family cannot comfortably afford. All I wanted to say was that given the choice between affordable options, one does get a boost in terms of MBA admissions from going to a top tier undergraduate institution.

And I absolutely never said (nor do I believe) that one needs a business undergrad to go for a MBA – my H went to Wharton for a MBA and his class had students from a wide range of undergrad majors and occupations - including (but not limited to )an air force pilot, engineers, a variety of liberal arts majors, a MD, and an opera singer. All were successful in the program.

And apologies to the OP for getting way off topic.

The University of South Carolina is widely considered to have one of the top undergraduate International Business programs (#1 Undergraduate International Business Degree for the last 17 consecutive years per U. S. News & World Report.) There is a requirement to spend at least one semester studying abroad, and the foreign language requirements are stringent. Students are also required to have a second major in a business area (Accounting, Finance, Marketing, etc.) Admission to the major is by application. If you are accepted into the Honors College, you can get in automatically as a freshman (although you are listed as pre-IB for two years to be sure your GPA and course progress stay on track). Or, you can apply as a sophomore (which understandably is very competitive). This is the current process, which could change. I don’t know how strong Carolina’s Marketing Dept. is. The new business school building is truly beautiful.

About the Honors College: Per the stats you posted, you would have a very good shot at acceptance. You do need to apply, and admission is not automatic (meaning not all high-stats students are accepted). It is very highly regarded, often considered one of the best public honors colleges in the US. There are many OOS students, especially in these two programs, so being from NJ you would not feel out of place.

Finally, the school offers a number of merit scholarships. You would probably receive in-state tuition plus something
$500-$4,000) more, so figure around $21,000-25,000/year (tuition, fees, R&B).