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[Portland</a> woman says Al Gore groped her in hotel room | OregonLive.com](<a href=“http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/prosecutor_al_gore_was_focus_o.html]Portland”>Portland woman says Al Gore groped her in hotel room - oregonlive.com)</p>
<p>That sounds pretty clear to me.</p>
<p>He didn’t start out doing those things according to the report. He started out by hugging her. Lots of people hug as a general greeting, and don’t mean it in a sexual way.</p>
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<p>Have to agree. Although I’ve had the same massage therapist for eight years, I have had others when I travel. For the most part, I’ve not had any abdominal work done before, except when my regular has worked on my psoas maybe a handful of times. And I guarantee you, there’s absolutely nothing remotely sexual going on while someone is working on your psoas! In fact, I’ve never had anyone want to start the massage on anything other than me lying on my stomach, unless I’ve requested otherwise.</p>
<p>"In a detailed statement given to police more than two years after the alleged incident the woman described her surprise at arriving for the VIP massage appointment to find Al Gore drinking beer and opening his arms in a hug saying “Call Me Al.”</p>
<p>But she said her VIP client later turned “angry and threatening” when she resisted Gore’s efforts to force her hand to his inner thigh and lower abdominal area during the massage and then attempted to rip her clothes as she struggled against him, she told police. </p>
<p>[Al</a> Gore Sex Abuse Allegations Lack Sufficient Evidence, Say Portland Police - ABC News](<a href=“Al Gore Sex Abuse Allegations Lack Sufficient Evidence, Say Portland Police - ABC News”>Al Gore Sex Abuse Allegations Lack Sufficient Evidence, Say Portland Police - ABC News)</p>
<p>^^^ I just have a hard time believing Al Gore could be that stupid. :eek:</p>
<p>I have a hard time believing he isn’t asexual:)</p>
<p>Al Gore seems to be a typical guy. Why does he seem asexual?</p>
<p>It sounds like the stress of the 2000 election just brought about some personality aberrations.</p>
<p>I feel terribly, terribly sorry for Tipper, but I am also grateful to Gore for all his work on Global Climate change. His Nobel Prize was well-deserved.</p>
<p>Why does he seem asexual?</p>
<p>In comparison perhaps to Clinton.
;)</p>
<p>Clinton smile and flickering eyes [monalisa’s style] show he is not asexual.
Asexual=“In humans, having no interest in sex.”</p>
<p>I strongly suspect that if this did happen the way the complainant’s story goes, the obvious explanation is that he thought she was a prostitute. (Not that someone’s being a prostitute is an excuse to sexually assault them.) Which also raises the question of whether patronizing prostitutes is something he was in the habit of doing. I have known a number of married men who confided in me (when they thought I was one of them!) that this is something they did when they were on business trips, as a “safe” way of engaging in extramarital sex without any danger of emotional entanglement. (In some ways, I used to feel like a spy when I was in the presence of men with no [other!] women around, especially during the period of several years when I was living part of the time one way and part of the time the other. You’d be amazed at some of the things I heard.)</p>
<p>Seems I read that her massage cost $520, which is a very high price for a massage, but would be what some call girls charge. More indication that he may have thought she was a call girl.</p>
<p>"Barry Levine, the executive editor of the National Enquirer, told Washington Post media critic and CNN contributor Howard Kurtz that the still-unidentified woman demanded the tabloid pay her $1 million for the story.</p>
<p>The Enquirer ultimately decided not to pay for the story because it was able to obtain the detailed police report. Levine also suggested the tabloid was troubled the woman did not make a statement to the police for more than two years after the alleged incident took place. However he ultimately published the piece because "we felt, if this was in legitimate police documents, that was a story that should be brought to the surface.</p>
<p>After the police report was made public, several national news organizations – including CNN – reported the story. Kurtz told CNN he’s not surprised the mainstream media ran with the report even though the underlying evidence of its truthfulness appeared tenuous.</p>
<p>“The reason this story was fit to print – even though we don’t know the woman’s claims are true – is that there are police records involved,” said Kurtz. “So there are plenty of reasons for mainstream journalists to be skeptical about a four year claim by a woman who declined to be interviewed by the police for at least two years. But once the Portland authorities looked into the matter and generated public records, it becomes hard to ignore such a story when a former vice president is involved.”</p>
<p>Portland Police said Wednesday the woman came to the department in January 2009, explaining that she would like to give a statement. “The woman read from a prepared statement and detailed the events of October 24, 2006. She reported that she was repeatedly subjected to unwanted sexual touching while in his (Gore’s) presence,” the police department’s statement Wednesday said"</p>
<p>[CNN</a> Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Blog Archive - TRENDING: Questions raised about Gore accuser - Blogs from CNN.com](<a href=“http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/06/25/questions-raised-about-gore-accuser/?fbid=XGtzdiaumtT#more-110606]CNN”>http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/06/25/questions-raised-about-gore-accuser/?fbid=XGtzdiaumtT#more-110606)</p>
<p>you’d be amazed at some of the things I heard.</p>
<p>I can imagine- :eek:</p>
<p>I am not arguing that Gore didn’t use professionals for sex- perhaps that was a way he dealt with the distance in his marriage- although there are other alternatives.</p>
<p>But usually when people are telling the truth, they are fairly brief- when they are lying, they add detail upon detail- this womans statement to the police falls into the 2nd category.</p>
<p>Don’t you usually give detail after detail to the police when they ask for your statement?</p>
<p>To be fair, she did originally contact the police a couple of months after the alleged incident (apparently after first having her lawyer contact the Secret Service, the FBI, and the Oregon State Police, all of whom referred her back to the local police), but she refused to be interviewed at that time. It isn’t as if she first raised the allegation two years after the fact.</p>
<p>Don’t you usually give detail after detail to the police when they ask for your statement?</p>
<p>* I don’t- I have had to make a statement before- but it was fairly short and didn’t include opinion*-
she added a lot of stuff about other clients she had had, as well as making comments about how cutthroat the work in hotels was and how competitive the jobs- she was really going on and on.
It didn’t make her look believable to me, because she kept commenting on how other clients made sexual comments to her and on the behavior and dress of the other therapists in the hotels.</p>
<p>I don’t usually project peoples motives-
but say you had an older woman
( and for a 54 yr old to be giving massage is " older" because it is very physical work- just hauling the massage table around is a job- which is why most people don’t do " calls".),
who found she couldn’t make a living giving massage- ended up getting her college degree in Liberal Studies- but found that didn’t help much with employment so still working in hotels - although charging well over $400 for a massage, must be able to limit how many hours you had to work.</p>
<p>Say this imaginary woman found some advantage in being perceived as a sex worker- it could explain why her fee was so high- it could get her clients that wanted to hire a sex worker, but because it was illegal- she wouldn’t actually have to do anything but a straight massage - since she worked out of hotels, she wouldn’t have to depend on return clients.</p>
<p>She did report it a few months after it supposedly happened, but she dropped the charges and is pursing a civil case.</p>
<p>I have never heard of a thigh massage causing an erection- although it is true that when men are relaxed, they may show it- but other than direct stimulation- there isn’t an automatic response in erectile tissue.</p>
<p>I also couldn’t tell you what the " chakras" are, it wasn’t part of the massage program I was in ( although cadaver anatomy was) and the only people I have ever heard using the term have been heavily into * woo- woo*.
It isn’t something that I could see Al Gore shouting about.
This will make a really good skit on SNL.</p>
<p>I just thought I’d put this one to rest. The accuser failed a lie detector test, no DNA was found where she said it would be found, the police closed the case. </p>
<p>Crackpot?</p>
<p>In addition, the accuser said when she left Gore’s room she was “shaking in shock” and rushed to the lobby, where an employee asked her if she was all right. Eyewitnesses at the hotel said they noticed nothing amiss.</p>
<p>Further, the accuser failed to provide records, medical and otherwise, to the police, though she said they were relevant to the case and the police repeatedly requested them.</p>
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<p>[Ore</a>. inquiry into sex-assault claim against Al Gore dropped for lack of evidence](<a href=“http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/30/AR2010073005420_pf.html]Ore”>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/30/AR2010073005420_pf.html)</p>
<p>Gore is cleared. This should end now. Leave the poor man alone.</p>