Gosselin kids asked to leave school

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<p>I don’t know how anyone could afford 8 kids, raise them properly and not go insane. Without the TV show, I think they would be on welfare. Unfortunately in order to make any money on TV, you are either famous or not. If you are not a celebrity you make nothing, if you are a celebrity then you are in the limelight. </p>

<p>With that many kids, you can’t afford not to have at least one stay home parent, unfortunately neither one of them could make enough money to afford those 8 kids in a normal kind of way.</p>

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<p>Bullet, TV Guide reported in October she was making $250,000 an episode for Kate Plus 8.</p>

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<p>What I do believe is that the kids would be very upset about being cut off from the crew that they’ve probably become very close to. The little interaction I’ve seen between the kid and the crew indicates they probably very fond of each other.</p>

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<p>I heard the same about the children missing the TV crew. I guess the crew was the family they never had.</p>

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<p>GA2012MOM - I had not heard that, but was just speculating. Did you actually read it somewhere?</p>

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<p>Yes teri, either read it or saw it on one of the news magazines. It was back when the whole Jon says no to the show thing was going on. You hit the nail on the head.</p>

<p>edit: <a href=“http://www.tv.com/kate-gosselin-says-kids-cry-over-missing-film-crew/webnews/13230.html[/url]”>http://www.tv.com/kate-gosselin-says-kids-cry-over-missing-film-crew/webnews/13230.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Well, we all know that the kids live a life we can’t understand, but just like any activity that involves adults who are imposed on your life on a regular basis, I’m sure they did bond with them despite the circumstances.</p>

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<p>It has been mentioned on the show that everybody has bonded with the crew. I am not surprised, they mentioned the same thing on the duggar show, too.</p>

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<p>I am sure they did bond with them, let’s be real, these kids probably know them better than their aunts and uncles since they have been in their life as long as they can remember. When that went down, it was right after the divorce, so to them at this young age they not only lost Daddy, but now other people too. </p>

<p>That being said, I do think at a certain time as a parent you have to weigh the pro’s and cons. It probably would be wise to explain to them now, that they are in school, the show would be ending. </p>

<p>If she is making 250K an episode, and does 13 episodes a yr, that is a lot of money. Add in royalties from previous yrs and book sales, than I have no pity for her from a fiscal sense. If someone can not live off 200K a yr (assuming she makes about 4 million and a 5% ROI) than they are doing something wrong ~~~~living too grand! </p>

<p>Even with 8 children, she should be able to live off of interest alone very nicely if she was fiscally sound. That means she might have to take the kids to Super Clips for haircuts at 15 bucks a pop than a salon at 35-50 a pop. That might mean she becomes a mere mortal and buy what is on sale at the grocery store or in bulk at Costco.</p>

<p>She has options to make up the loss of income besides hawking her kids out in public. They are not the 1st family with sextuplets, there are many of them around the country. I recall the Macaughey (I think that was their name) who had septuplets + an older sibling =8 kids about 15 yrs ago. Do you see them schlocking their kids out to pay the bills? No, they rarely grant interviews. They have raised their family privately and all on a kindergarten assistant and a countertop salesmans salary. </p>

<p>It is Kate’s choice. Her children are showing some big signs of issues at a young age. She can rationalize this as giving them the best life from a fiscal standpoint, but that doesn’t mean she is giving them the best life.</p>

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<p>*The father comes out and says he wants his kids off TV, that it’s bad for them. Yet he has no job, no income, and pays no child support. From where I’m sitting, the mother is trying to generate income for her very large family. We may not approve of the source – a TV show – but it’s a helluva lot more than that whiny, adolescent father is doing. *</p>

<p>I completely agree. Kate has had to be the (sole) adult in that family for a LONG, LONG time. When you see repeats of the earlier shows, time and time again, Jon demonstrates what an idiot (and non-parent) he is.</p>

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<p>I think Kate Gosselin will segue into being just a TV personality, without the kids, in the long run. But seriously, that ex of hers is nothing more than a source of full employment for lawyers.</p>

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I can’t agree with this … I’ve seen the comment before and found the family size data for the USA and there are A LOT of families in the US with 8+ kids (which I can’t find agin) … I want to say 100,000 families plus … and they are not all kids of CEOs or reality TV stars. My mom was one of 9 kids in a family with below average income and they did fine … a typical hard working immigrant family … in which 6 of the 9 kids ended up graduating from the local state school.</p>

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<p>Sad to see how many women are willing to bash the mother here when the father is a complete moron. I would think a woman would understand the perspective of another woman who needs to support 8 kids with a do nothing father in the picture. Shouldn’t there be a bit more understanding for this woman. I agree that she has overstepped the bounds a bit but who the hell would want to be in her shoes?</p>

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I agree, ellemenope, reality shows seem to have become the path to quasi-legitimacy, at least in the eyes of some of the American public. Thinking about the Survivor lady from “The View,” whose name I have no desire to remember - I always wonder, “why am I supposed to care what she thinks?” I know enough “real” people already. I’m ridiculously in the past, but I’d like my talking heads to have some qualification other than “reality show contestant.” I don’t think that actors, chefs, designers, etc. are intrinsically more intelligent, but they usually have a talent that has earned them their celebrity. They’re not like me - that used to be why they were on television.</p>

<p>Not that I’ve watched “The View” more than a handful of times, though I do like to read the “Television without Pity” recaps occasionally. (How seriously can we take a show that has a Real Housewife as a panelist?) jym put up a thread last week about the unusual frequency of suicides among reality show contestants - these are not intrinsically stable people. Of course most of them won’t commit suicide - but many are either exhibitionists or have the kind of personality disorder that encourages them to think that the world wants to watch their everyday activities.</p>

<p>3togo’s comment resonates with me - I know several large families, some of whom struggle hard to make ends meet. They’d never think of having a 2 year old kid essentially pay his own way by being captured on television. I don’t care whether it was Jon or Kate who maneuvered them into this mess. Their kids could not have given informed consent, which means their parents are exploiting them for financial gain.</p>

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<p>I don´t think any of those large families have 6 kids the same age. What often happens is that you have older siblings take care of younger ones. Financially it is crazy to have that many kids.</p>

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<p>Momma-three,</p>

<p>I understand your feeling that women are bashing her, but I have to disagree with you. If she was a guy I would still be just as hard on them. </p>

<p>Sorry, but it is sexist to say, we are women and we should band together as a sex in support of a parent that we disagree with. To me a bad parent is a bad parent regardless if you have 2 X’s or an X &Y.</p>

<p>Jon Gosselin may or may not be a moron, but then what does that say about the woman who decided to marry that moron? At least that moron has faded away from the limelight…honestly, if he really loved it he could throw his face in by kicking up firestorms and selling dirt on Kate. He hasn’t!</p>

<p>Jon should have seen the writing on the wall yrs ago when her family left her. By even her accounts she has stated that she has no relationship with her parents or sibling. She is not the angelic mother who only cares about family as she likes to portray. If she was, why would she throw her family aside?</p>

<p>As I have stated and other agree, to say that she has to sell out her kids to put a roof over their head is a fallacy. She already sold them out and got handsomely paid for it, not only by TLC, but with book deals, speaking arrangements, and the perks of vacations, solar panels, treehouses, etc. </p>

<p>Sorry, but I have no pity for her if she went through all of that money. When they started this show the kids were in diapers and they were crammed into a small house. That was reality of raising 8 kids. Now, she has a huge home, on many acres, and everytime you turn they are on another vacation with their nannies while the kids attend private school. It doesn’t seem she is living reality for the average family of 8 kids.</p>

<p>I would be willing to trade lives with her tomorrow, just so I can go on vacation, have nannies, personal chef, 750 hair weaves, and get tanned/manicures weekly. Doesn’t seem like a hard life to me.</p>

<p>Kate grates on me because she throws her family in the limelight, but then has the gall to say give my family privacy. Sorry, you opened the door and unless you get off the air, then you can’t bemoan about the invasion. You asked for it plain and simple. If after all this time on being on the cover of tabloids you don’t get it, than you are the moron.</p>

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<p>“who the hell would want to be in her shoes?”</p>

<p>Apparently she did. She chose her mate; she chose the fertility drugs (and any obstetrician would laugh at arguments to the contrary). She chose to try to carry all six fetuses to term. That loser and those 8 kids didn’t fall from the sky.</p>

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<p>They are both morons, each in their own special, toxic way.</p>

<p>And I’m sure that same argument was used when child labor was common. “But think of the poor single mothers! How will they survive if little Janey and Tommy aren’t at the factory ten hours a day?”</p>

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<p>I don’t understand all the fuss about their having 8 kids. My cousins had 8 kids and no one came around to film them.</p>

<p>And there was a family around the corner from us who worked their way up to 12 kids during the 1960s. No film crew there too (although they would have had plenty of material – kids walking on roof ridge lines, kids pushing scooters on barley frozen lake, etc)</p>

<p>Oh, the big deal is they had 6 at once? So what – I think spread out is more interesting.</p>

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<p>I don’t know that it merits having their own reality tv show, but I happen to think that having 6 children at once vs. over time is a pretty big deal. And I don’t necessarily mean that in a positive way-the whole practice is very debatable from several standpoints.</p>