Grades/Scores for UVA/CAL Rowing recruit

<p>No doubt UVA and CAL are highly ranked academic schools. </p>

<p>Looking for perspective on the flexibility admissions gives recruits. In reading through many, many posts, it is clear that the IVYs do not bend (Athletic Index) and that Stanford will not bend academic requirements for rowers.</p>

<p>How about UVA or CAL? Where is their baseline? Anyone with experience?</p>

<p>Ds rowing experience is extensive - USJRNT - and 2k is sub 7.20. GPA 3.5</p>

<p>Is the 3.5 weighted or unweighted? What are the test scores? Is he in the top 10%?</p>

<p>Have him fill out the online recruiting questionnnaires at the schools’ athletic websites, and then email the coaches with questions. If his times are attractive, the coaches will be happy to let him know how his academics look.</p>

<p>It is a very different deal, even at UVa (for women) and Cal, than the Ivies. Stanford, for rowing, is an exceptional case altogether, not relevant to discuss on this thread. </p>

<p>If the 3.5 is unweighted, that is more than fine. If she can surpass 1900 on the SATs, or 30 on the ACTs, you will be OK. Higher is always better.</p>

<p>Your child’s attractiveness, and the reason top ranked programs will be interested in her, is because of her rowing prowess and her experience on the USJRNT (this counts for a lot). She should shoot for a sub-7:05 by early summer 2012 and a sub-7:00 by end of August. With that, and passable grades and scores, she will have no problem getting recruited at a top program like UVa or Cal. </p>

<p>Remember this – it is her athleticism, not her academics that will win the day; focus efforts accordingly.</p>

<p>Ivy’s do bend, depending on how much they want that person. A kid in my grade was recruited last fall (of our junior year) to play a sport for PTon; it was officially in the papers and everything. He took barely any honors classes, maybe 1 AP, and is ranked probably somewhere around 100 in our grade of 400+. He had to retake the SAT multiple times to get an 1800. I can guarantee a non-recruited athlete would never have gotten in there with anywhere close to those stats. But I’m glad for him because he actually is pretty dedicated to the sport so good for him. But the moral of the story is that if your kid is good enough, they will bend.</p>

<p>I cannot speak for CAL, but my D was being recruited by UVA, and I am going to agree with OldScarecrow that your D’s current GPA would be fine if combined with decent/strong test scores. We too found that USJNRT made a huge difference in the recruiting scenario, and that type of experience coupled with good grades/test scores has great potential to be a winning combination. Obviously the lower the 2K time the better, but I don’t agree that they have to be sub-7.05 - just from our own experience with UVA, which is all I can speak from.
Please feel free to PM me if you have more specific questions.</p>

<p>My S was recruited at Cal for rowing and the coach said all he had to do was hit the California minimum in terms of GPA and test scores (that means the minimum requirements for entry into any UC school) and he would be in. He further said they had never not gotten a recruit they wanted so if they want your D, and GPA and test scores meet the minimum, she should have no problem.</p>

<p>From what we heard this year, sub 7:20 is what the top programs wanted to hear. The rowers I know are excellent students, with few exceptions, so the test scores/transcripts were on par with top schools freshman profile. Sounds like your daughter is very well positioned in terms of recruiting. Best of luck!</p>

<p>She is fine as long as her SAT tops 1600 (for all three scores). Coaches will take weight into account with respect to erg times, so they will expect a faster time from a heavier rower. If you want to see what’s expected, look up the recent recruits and their times.</p>

<p>beenthere2 – where/how can we look up recent recruit times? I am interested in Ivy Lightweight girls rowing, thank you :)</p>

<p>You have to do your homework. Go to the roster and then google the names (with erg). However, because LW rowers do not vary that much by weight as HW rowers, erg times are a lot more comparable. Low 7:40s gets you recruited at the top programs; of course, the faster, the better. You can also look at CrashB results, but keep in mind that many CrashB rowers are actually OW rowers who managed to get down to 135 lbs for weigh-in but can’t get any lower weight-wise. Also, ask the coaches for what times they require.</p>