Grit and Resilience

Do you have either and which is better?
I have been reading about grit and resilience. I think I and my H and Ds have grit (nature vs nurture). I’m
not sure about resilience . I think I need to work on that.
If you have grit- resilience will follow. But if you have resilience you may not have grit. Neither are related to intelligence but both are related to success.
What do you have?

Definitely grit. Far more than resilience.

Isn’t resilience a part of what is called grit?

I need definition of both terms to really answer thoughtfully . To me grit sounds like some southern food.

Lol, Dr. Google! I love grits.

Here is one explanation:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/margaretperlis/2013/10/29/5-characteristics-of-grit-what-it-is-why-you-need-it-and-do-you-have-it/

Based on the article posted, I believe I have become less “gritty” over time, and just more complacent. I guess satisified with my current station in life, and no longer driven to kick it up a notch. I do have grit though and the capacity to really use it when needed. I think I am pretty resilient too. I definitely see these characteristics as important and I think being involved in sports and/or music that require focused practicing and performing can help kids foster these characteristics.

Being from the northern part of the US, I never ate grits until I moved overseas where I work with Americans from all over the US. I love them! Especially when loaded with spicy sausage, cheese and peppers. YUM.

BB, that’s an interesting article, but it does not really capture how I would define “grit.” I would define it as perseverance, determination and stamina in the face of adversity – especially extreme physical hardship. I think of pioneers or soldiers as having grit.

I think of “resilience” as the ability to bounce back after setbacks or outright failure.

Not just adversity as you describe but also through boredom, fatigue, illness, etc. Grit underlies drive in my view.

I’m suspicious of grit as a value. From people I know who strongly value it, I’ve understood it to encompass a kind of stoicism in the face of trauma that is somewhat out of touch with our current understanding of emotion. In their view, a soldier with PTSD does not have grit. Someone deeply emotionally scarred by trauma does not have grit. I’ve seen people try to hide their reasonable emotional reactions in order to conform outwardly to pressure to exhibit grit.

I’ve also heard certain bigwigs in private settings refer to people who have gone through clinical depression and who have made it out alive as emotionally unstable or “lacking in grit.” That’s obviously a misuse of the word and concept but it left a bad taste in my mouth nonetheless.

I totally agree with you there @nottelling. I haven’t heard or read that.

That’s a great question to ponder, @Rockymtnhigh.

At first I thought I have not yet experienced any adversity great enough to determine my grit and resilience. Then it occurred to me that what one person breezes through with little difficulty another person might find that same task onerous to complete. His grit and resilience might be greatly challenged while mine would not be.

So I have not been tested. I do believe though if I was faced with a huge loss (loss of family)due to a crisis that I would curl up in a fetal positon and begin to wither away. Not sure what would happen after that.

The H and my D have both faced difficulties that brought out their grit and resilience. One of the ways they differ from me is that they have the capacity to get very angry. That anger moves them forward. I don’t have that. At least I don’t believe I do.

Ugh…I have spent two hours thinking about this…need to get moving. Thanks for the mental workout this morning.

As I was talking to the chiropractor on Wednesday, it’s impossible to know if you should work through something - grit, I suppose - or back off. So grit has hurt me more than once. And stubbornness in the face of facts is not intelligence. So then take my response: get treatment, try to fix the underlying problem and show resilience by getting back into working. Both are important but without resilience you can give up.

I have been accused of having “grit” because I did not give up on life after having bone cancer or after losing a child. I have no idea what that means. I am resilient, however, in that I have–in the face of challenges–consistently chosen to move forward, rather than looking back. It’s not always easy; sometimes the hardest part is admitting the need for help.

True clinical depression is a disease. It is an overwhelming disease for many people, who are unable to seek help because of their disease. Those people often need outside assistance before they can show resilience or 'grit."

This is tough. Professionally I am not a quitter, not a perfectionist and not afraid to fail. I have the ideal temperament for an entrepreneur.

When something physical happens to me I am not a strong fighter. Bless you dmd, I don’t know if I have the strength to fight through physical adversity.
As a learner, if I’m interested in the topic I will learn everything about it. If I’m not, forget it, I hope I can hire someone who knows it better.

It seems to me that “grit” is always measured in hindsight. The person who faced adversity, took risks, stumbled along the way, but continued to pursue his/her goal, and ultimately succeeded in the end is said to have “grit.” But what about those who did all that, but their stories ended in failure? Are they just unlucky/pathetic because bad things happened to them, stupid for taking risks, unrealistic for continuing toward goals they couldn’t reach?
We like hearing stories of triumph over adversity. No one really likes to hear about failures, but I suspect the failures are much more common. The gritty success stories are like a rare glimpse at super-humans–they inspire us and keep hope alive. I’ve faced several big challenges/tragedies in my life. I wouldn’t say I have grit. I wouldn’t say I’m that resilient either. Probably more stoic than anything, as most people wouldn’t know about the challenges/tragedies or what I ever did to get through them. I’m not constantly pursuing excellence–I’m congratulating myself for getting out of bed every day. I’m only human. As are most people.