Under the age of 24 you have to overcome the presumption that you are not a resident for tuition purposes because your parents are not Michigan residents. You have to file the residency application and provide evidence sufficient to overcome the presumption. Google the requirements and the proof the colleges will ask for. You have to provide documentation of permanent residency or citizenship plus evidence of ties to Michigan (other than attending college).
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I have been working full time. this is the only state I have worked in. I also file my taxes independently. I have paid for my education till now through merit scholarships. Michigan state university has an appeal option where I can appear in front of the residency board in person
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Check if you can be considered independent. Also, in state tuition policy is school specific. So you should ask MSU directly. I know an international student with E2 visa who is eligible to in state tuition at MSU but not UMich.
I’m of the opinion that she shouldn’t be putting Harvard on her resume. I understand that she’s excited, but the education section is supposed to be for education she’s already earned, and she hasn’t even started at Harvard. Beyond that, it’s completely irrelevant to the job at hand.
I actually don’t think this is normal. “BA expected 2018” when you are a sophomore is a different story, because you’ve already started your education and have a year or whatnot under your belt - and those are often resumes sent out for jobs that require the applicant to be a college student at the time or a college graduate by X date. At this point she’s got exactly zero experience with Harvard, so really the message it’s sending is that the employer is supposed to think she’s special because she got accepted to Harvard. And while that is quite an accomplishment, I doubt the manager of the local Target would care. A Podunk State student can stock back-to-school items just as well as a Harvard student-to-be.
It could be turning off the employer for a variety of reasons, not the least because it makes it pretty clear that she’ll be clearing out in early to mid August to get ready to go to college. And it’s already mid-June, which means she’d only be working there 6-8 weeks. When I was in high school most of the seasonal jobs seemed to do their summer hiring in April or May, and students would work through the end of August.
You need to ask your own guidance counselor about this. She will be able to tell you more than any of us can about the likelihood of your admission at the various SUNYs because she knows the details of your situation, and the track record of students from your school as far as admission goes.
@Hanna A resume is a description of relative work history. Future matriculation at Harvard does NOT belong on there for a summer Target job. I agree with some of the others who say they might circular file it. If you seem bright and I ask you in the interview what your plans are for next year, there is no problem in telling me you plan to go to Harvard. I might even be more interested in you as a summer employee. But, that’s because I will expect more out of you. 
I don’t want to see on the resume what books and movies you like and if you come with your mother, I had best not see her, either. I agree with you in that putting future dates on the resume is appropriate if you are actually engaged in a program with a definitive end date and it’s pertinent to the job you are applying for. Otherwise, no.
It’s late in the game to apply for summer jobs. In fact, close to impossible. Perhaps babysit, tutor, or dog walk.
Like others, I think the main problem is that it’s not that easy to get a summer job and mid-June is pretty late in the year already. In general though, I think putting Harvard on her resume could definitely be helpful if she’s applying for local tutoring / babysitting jobs, or if a Harvard alum is doing the hiring. Otherwise, it’s probably sometimes positive, sometimes negative.
Longer term, it depends on the setting but most kids encounter a few negative reactions when people find out where they go to school and find themselves being self-conscious about it from time to time. My advice to your daughter is not to give a d*mn how people are going to react and just put it on her resume since that’s what most kids do.
On a half-joking / half-serious note, it’ll be curious to see in a few years whether your daughter decides to mention Harvard on her “dating resume”. Conventional wisdom is that “dropping the H-bomb” when out on the town instantly makes a guy 200% more attractive to women, but makes women 50% less attractive to men. In my younger days, I might have known a guy or three who wasn’t above using this tactic when 1:00 am rolled around
I don’t think that Harvard is the problem per se. I just think 1) college kids have been back a while and have taken many summer jobs and 2) many stores would prefer to hire someone that will stay with them past the summer. Unfortunate she is late in the game for summer job hunting as even lifeguarding/counselor jobs will likely be filled by now.
Lifeguarding jobs here are going unfilled, particularly the full-time ones. Kids don’t want to work that much.
Our small city has a summer job fair in March. Encourage your D to start job hunting earlier next year. Maybe seh will get lucky and find something in her field, but more likely she’ll spend the first summer in a general job.
At this point the best option is to talk to all local friends who are working and ask them to introduce her to their management. Maybe some place needs occasional worker, especially for inconvenient hours.
These might apply to you for MSU to establish Michigan residency:
If you do not go to school for 12 mo, and are independent, your are presumed to be in-state by MSU. Your current enrollment at Washtenaw acts against you because it is your ‘primary purpose’ from an MSU perspective. You can join the National Guard , reserves or military services (or if your parent or spouse is in the services) and automatically be consider in-state. You can work for MSU in any non-student employment capacity. You can marry a Michigan resident. Unfortunately because you are under 24 yrs old you are presumed to be dependent upon your parents who do not live in Michigan.
UMich has similar requirements, except they omit employment and add partner or spouse.
“Is Harvard listed on the resume a turn off for lower-paying employers?” a resume should not list a future job or school. it is what you have done up to the point of your application. and going forward the harvard name will open many doors, it is also a turn off to many future employers at all levels.
If there is another Target in your area that is near a residential university, then it may still be hiring. July is busy for them as they stock and restock Back to College stuff. The aisles will literally be full with additional areas of
stuff. Many temp hires to help out.
Lots of good suggestions on this thread. Some summers, jobs are more scarce. In our area, it seems hiring is still going on - DD works at a place, and two young workers just landed jobs elsewhere (so DD is going to get more work hours, yea!)
Older DD got her first paid job because of her volunteer work. She volunteered through HS at our church on Sundays with younger kids’ Sunday School. Near her college is a well funded church with highly educated and particular parents; their large multi-room Sunday nursery/toddler/pre-school pays well ($11/hour; in an affordable city - where min wage is Federal min wage). They like college students. They called our church director of religious education Kathleen about DD - they were more impressed that DD was very reliable in an un-paid position (Kathleen volunteered the info to me when I verbally thanked her and told her DD is enjoying her college job). DD got a second paid job that fits her schedule ($12 or $13 an hour) which was listed as a nursing internship - she does oral care for hospital patients that need it (so every ‘shift’ she works she makes $30). Her next step is getting a PT job with the hospital she wants to work at, so that in May/June when she graduates and passes the nursing exam, she can slide into a FT nursing job. My niece was working PT at a hospital, and she was able to move into a nursing job during a hiring freeze because she was a current employee.
Maybe craigslist lists job openings for summer?
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Target said they were hiring as was Home Depot in our area and she did the on line applications. She did put her wage from last summer ($15/hour) which I am sure is why she was not interviewed.
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I can see how that would be an issue. Makes you wonder if it’s best to leave off an amount if it’s significantly higher than what that company pays.
I think H has a late start date. If so, that can be an advantage w/o naming the school. Simply stating something like: Must leave for college on Sept 10 (or whatever), that could be an advantage if the employer wants some summer hires to work thru Labor Day.
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I am going to Washtenaw community college in Ann Arbor, Michigan. I was born in Texas, where my parents lived during their college years after which they moved back to their home country where i lived for 17 years. I had to leave due to situations in the country two years ago and chose Michigan as I had friends here. I am 21 years of age and came here when i was 19. I have been working full-time since then. I have also been going to college since then but I wasn’t enrolled as a full-time student during my first two semesters. I have no connections whatsoever with any other state in the U.S. I also plan to permanently settle here in Michigan after I graduate. So am I not a resident of any state?
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Hi! I made a thread previously about this, but I have some updated information and I figured I may as well make a new thread. Apologies to anyone who replied to the last thread; I forgot to reply and it’s a bit awkward for me to bump the thread up after a month of silence.
Anyway, long story short - I used to be a straight A student (95% average) in freshman year, but due to (mental) health issues, in sophomore year I had to drop a few classes and passed the rest with a barely passing grade (75% at most, and 65% at the least). I have no ECs (or any that really matter, at least), and I have no plan to do any others. I’m currently a rising junior, and as for health, I am doing better and currently medicated (and not in therapy, for what that matters).
I am worried about my chances of getting into a state college, though, since my GPA is obviously going to drop a lot, and because I am taking less classes in junior year. I’m not interested into any “top-tier” colleges, but I’m keeping my eye on SUNY at Buffalo right now, and it would be a gift if anyone knows what to do in junior/senior year to make it happen. I don’t mind going to community college first and then transferring, but I’d like to keep it as a backup for now.
My guidance counselor is aware of my situation and we are currently working out the situation with me returning to school next year and all that. I do expect that my grades will continue to stay in the 90s, too.
Are there any things that would help me to get into a SUNY college (specifically Buffalo)? I read that my guidance counselor should put it in her reference letter that I did poorly this year because of my health, but is there anything else I can do? I will be speaking to my guidance counselor next week about my classes, so anything would be appreciated, thank you!