Harvard and PY chances- by the numbers.

<p>I believe last year at Havard and Yale the upper 25% of admitted SAT scores was 2380. For the class of 2011, according to collegeboard, 889 students across the country received a 2380 or higher. If harvard and yale accept about 2000 students, about 500 of them had a 2380 or higher. I doubt every single one of these 889 students applied to harvard and yale (even less with early action and decision). 500 out of sub-889 students (probably alot less than 889 just based on people applying early decision places and of course Stanford..) with a 2380 were accepted. </p>

<p>For all those 2380+ applied hopefuls here on CC, does this look very good?</p>

<p>Well when Harvard or Yale say that 25% or their students had a 2380 or above, thy mean superscored. Collegeboard doesn't keep track of superscored grades, so the number of people with 2380s and above is probably higher than 889</p>

<p>What about 36s?</p>

<p>Not necessarily. The top 25% is only for applicants who supplied SAT scores. There are many applicants who submitted only ACT scores (around 30% of applicants, I believe). Regardless, with a 2380+ your chances are obviously better than the total acceptance rate, but it's nowhere near as high as you assume.</p>

<p>Does Harvard release the composite score percentile or the breakdown between CR/M/W percentiles? All I have seen so far is the breakdown, so you cannot simply add the individual scores percentiles to get to the composite percentile.</p>

<p>I’m with AleaJactaEst. I haven’t seen H or Y report a figure for SAT total, but 25th percentile would be less than 2380. For Yale class of ’15 admits, you’d get 2380 if you summed the 25th percentile scores on each of the three tests (790V 800M 790W), but you’d be making the incorrect assumption that exactly the same students are in the 25th percentile on all three tests. </p>

<p>If you look at the College Board's report of SAT composite results for the total population last year, the 95th percentile was 2040, but if you added the scores for the three different tests, you'd get 2120. A reasonable guess is that the 25th percentile on the composite score for admitted students at H & Y is in the 2300-2350 range. People in that range have a better than average shot at admission -- but, the grim reality is that most won't get in. Taking each of the three tests by itself, Yale last year rejected 85% or more of applicants with scores of 760-800. The odds would be better for those who are above 760 on all three, but it's still a long shot for most.</p>

<p>Sebulis - I think the top 25% is a 33 or 34. So a 36 would be doing well, but it seems as though more applicants have the SAT than the ACT or both. The admissions office does not care which truly (trust me on this).</p>

<p>Princeton published a figure stating that they admit 21% of applicants in 2300+ range.</p>

<p>@texaspg,
Source?</p>

<p>I am sure that number is acurate. First, I am not sure colleges actually keep track of the total SAT scores. Many Ivy schools ignore the Writing section and tracks only the CR and M scores. Second, based on the public numbers from Yale, the admit rates for applicants with SAT CR and M scores above 700 were only 11-12% in 2010, which is higher than average, but not much higher.</p>

<p>Couldn't have said it better than Alea and Opensecret.</p>

<p>What everyone else said. Even if we did have the relevant numbers, I don't see why this is an interesting question to ask. Of course people who do objectively better on one part of the application, in this case test scores, have a higher rate of getting in. A 6% admission rate doesn't mean that everyone who applies has a 6% chance of getting his name picked out of a hat. For some people the chances are a lot better than 6%. In fact the word "chance" is misleading because it's not a game of a chance; it's a game of who's the better applicant.</p>

<p>harvardparent - Princeton brochure issued at one of their seminars. </p>

<p>Here it is online.</p>

<p>Princeton</a> University | Admission Statistics</p>

<p>texaspg,</p>

<p>Thanks for the link. It seems at least for Princeton, the difference between admission rates for good (700-730) and very good (730 and above) was quite striking. Princeton is quite transparent in this aspect, just as Yale. I wish Harvard would release the same type of statistics.</p>