harvd-bounds>>SAT1 or SAT2s in january?!!

<p>Hello all…ok, i have a dilemma that is depriving me of some much-needed sleep–hopefully some godsent person reads this through!!</p>

<p>i took the sat 1 for the 1st time in oct, and got 2020…i hadnt taken it before, and only recently decided to go to the US.</p>

<p>SAT 1 october/2006(1st time) math-660/cr-700/writing-660(essay 10)=2020</p>

<p>Q>>>>>I was busy with many activities, and thought that i’ll take my sat2s in january 2007…but here’s the thing: now i did 2 SAT1 practice tests and got 2150 and 2120 in them…for my SAT 2s of math2c,phy and lit, i’m getting 780,800, and 740,respectively,on the practice tests.----What should i take in January: SAT 1, or SAT2s!!!</p>

<p>NOW, before u say that harvard and many other schls must have sat 2s, do consider that i have 5 A levels(british advanced levels)…in light of that, i’ll put some more info below…</p>

<p>Myself–an asian living in saudi arabia
graduated 2006 june----since then: doing 2 jobs+intern at newspap,signed up for 7 APs self-study(to keep mind engaged, or something like that),joined my schl board(only student ever to do this, initiated a major projct in schl, and continuing with my previous ECs(see below)</p>

<p>Rank- 1 out of 70…gpa –97%
Brtish IGCSE 9 A*,2 A
GCE A levels physics-A, maths-A, Economics-A,English-A,chemistry-A
GCE AS levels(half of A levels): furhter maths-B, History-A
Schl courses: 4 yrs of arabic and bengali-both always As
others—all other courses-only 2 Bs ever</p>

<p>founder/presdnt of jewish dialogue projct in Riyadh(vv sensitive issue in this v conservative muslim society) for 2 yrs now
coordinator and volunteer at expat welfare assoc for 6 yrs now!
founded culture club at schl, presdnt 3yrs
schl head boy 2yrs (student council presdnt)
deputy head boy 1 yr, prefect 2yrs
class president 4 yrs
editor in chf weekly paper 2yrs
intl news editor 2yrs
editr in chf magazn 3yrs<br>
1st mideast english daily newsppr intern 1yr
soccer captain 3yrs
scocer vice captian 2 yrs
Teakwondo blck belt 5yrs
grade 8 teacher at an international schl(kg-6) for 3 yrs now</p>

<p>many awards/etc…</p>

<p>my friends who have half my courseload did better than me on SATs—and NO, u cant say that my schl has grade inflation, coz my A lleevel results are externally marked by edexcel(british board)—</p>

<p>The thing is, it was my first “SAT” sort of thing ever. My SAT1 puts me in like top 6%;whereas my A lvevls put me(esp demanding 5 A levels) in top .001%
(also, i guess i’ve digressed and turned this into a sort of chances thread…oh well…)</p>

<p>I am confident that i’ll get 750+(and possibly all 790+) on my SAT2s, if my practice test scores are anything to go by. So, do u think, given my other stats, that HYP,dartmouth, and other v.v.v. competitive colleges will look down on my very low SAT1 scores?</p>

<p>(i know, and ive heard of US applicants getting iin with such low SAT1s in to HYP,given that their other stats tell a diiferent story…but i am an intl, and therefore do u think i’m sort of “automatically” out of the running, or shld I dole out the $65 application fee and find out?
and yeah, i’ll try to have gr8 recs, essays and all…</p>

<p>okkkkkkk…i’m done rambling!!!thnks for reading if u have persisted so far!!</p>

<p>ok i’m off to bed…thnks ppl, and pls reply!!!</p>

<p>BUMP…the above post pertains to more than SATs…intl students with only schl ECs–READ!!–THNKS!!</p>

<p>With a 2020? You’re in the top6%? Haha, but sorry to burst your bubble, Harvard is out of your reach. Unless you get at least a 2200 and 750+ on SAT I’s and SATII’s, you don’t even stand a chance. And even if you get those scores, it’s still a reach.</p>

<p>vbmaxx actually, I think around 730-740 onwards is still pretty decent for Ivy League. 710 is out though. (and that’s for sat ii)
For sat i 2200+ is what you should be looking at…no disagreements there.</p>

<p>You REALLY need to take SATs again. Those wouldn’t really stand a chance as a US student, let alone international.</p>

<p>dont listen to all these people putting you down…i think you’ll stand good. besides, you took 5 A levels and got all As…oh and for those who dont know what A level is, its like AP courses, except 3 times harder, similar to the IB. </p>

<p><i>You’re in the top6%? Haha, but sorry to burst your bubble, Harvard is out of your reach.</i></p>

<p>sorry to burst your bubble but, i have a friend who got 980 on the SAT and got two interviews then wailisted at harvard.</p>

<p>OK GUYS SO GALD YOU ARE REPLYING…AND ALL OPINIONS ARE APPRECIATED…BE HONEST AND DONT WORRY ABOUT PUTTING ME DOWN!!
actually i never think of getting into an ivy as like an all-consuming goal for my life…if i get in:gr8; if not, then oh well…</p>

<p>vbmaxx>>>>>>>>>>>YES, i am in the 94%tile thng if i have a 2020 score>>and this is from college board!!–so if you decide to give an opinion in the light of this and other info i present below, then i would be delighted to hear from u!!----also, as per about 9 practice sat2s i’ve done, i will get 800,790,760 in them…AND, according to IB org. and UCAS, a score of 42 on the IB equates to 5 A grades at A levels…I have 6 As and 1 B in 5 A levels and 2 AS levels(2 AS=1 A level)==and my courses are maths, physics,english,economics,history,chemistry, and further maths…</p>

<p>after all the above, will my record be truly at a disadvantage when they see my 2020!!! i dont thnk very many intls have taken such an “extremely” rigorous course, and gotten As…and besides, SATs arent supposed to be so decisive, right?</p>

<p>sifat>>>>thnks for the encouragement!!..by the way… a 980??in what?</p>

<p>AND NOW, FOR ALL OF U, SOME PERSPECTIVE(4 ppl who applied to class of 2010 at harvard…none were legacies/athletes/urms,etc…all were copy/pasted from CC forums…yeah, i was also shocked with the 4th guy!!!</p>

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<p>accepted

  1. girl from Bulgaria
  2. SATI - 1490, SATII Writing - 750, SATII German - 800, SATII Literature - 660, SATII Math IC - 650(look at the SAT2s!!!)
  3. ECs - drama, EIC of school newspaper, community service work, etc.
  4. ACCEPTED:Harvard, Yale, Princeton,IUB, Trent U, Lafayette C, Grinnell C, Bates C, Swarthmore C, UPENN, Columbia U, Wesleyan U.
  5. asked for lot of aid…could give only 8000$…got grants from alll…!!
    5…the above ECs were all at community level, and i also took a GAP yr.</p>

<p>Decision: Accepted
Stats:
SAT I: 610V; 690M; 640W–1940
SAT IIs: French w/ Listening (480); Math 2C (690); US History (770)
ACT
GPA: 4.45 - 4.0 (unweighted)
Rank: top 2%; class of 472
Other stats: AP US History - 5
Subjective:
Essays: emotional & uplifting
Teacher Recs: didn’t read - neither teacher has ever written a rec for an Ivy League before - 1 of the teacher was a 2nd year teacher (taught me in her 1st year)
Counselor Rec: didn’t read - 2nd year counselor but she still knew me pretty well despite the large number of students
Hook (if any): live on my own; asian not interested in science; geographic location; crappy school; 1st person in family to go to college
Location/Person:
State or Country: southern VA
School Type: large & rural - no one has ever made it to an Ivy League, most drop out/go to community college; only top 50% take SAT (avg 961)
Ethnicity: SE Asian - Vietnamese
Gender: female
Perceived Strengths/Weaknesses: essays / College Board hates me - in all fairness, I only took the SAT I twice & the SAT IIs once. As for the French SAT score, I have taken French for 5 years and have always been top in my class. Unfortunately, French is not considered to be my school’s top priority so a French 5 at my school is equivalent to, at most, French 3 at other schools.
Why you think you were accepted/deferred/denied: the adcoms are in the holiday spirit
Other Factors: jobs take up a big part of my ecs. I worked 3 jobs in the summer - 2.5 (newspaper carrier is the .5) during school year (~40 hrs/week)</p>

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<p>Decision: Rejected
Stats:
SAT: 1600--------------------2400
SAT IIs: 800/800/800
GPA: 4.4 W, 4.0 UW
Rank: 2/470
Other stats: 35 ACT, 5’s on 3 APs
Subjective:
Essays: Good, did optional one too
Teacher Recs: Don’t know
Counselor Rec: Good
Hook (if any): none
Location/Person:
State or Country: Nebraska
School Type: public
Ethnicity: white
Gender: female
major strength/weakness: lots of community service, but not much leadership
why you think you were accepted/rejected/defered: didn’t show enough personality? showed too much personality? adcom had a bad hair day?
Other Factors: none
I have a smart email program, the admissions decision letter went straight to the spam folder </p>

<p>—Rejected
1590 800 800 780
5/5/5/5/5/5/4/4/4
National AP Scholar
300 hours volunteering ~ ER
Cancer Research
30 college credits (non-AP, taken at state univ)
Really good recs
I think essays were fine
other factors: school isn’t so good, but two people were recruited for athletics, so they prolly didnt want to take more. o well…</p>

<p>PPL, I WANNA HEAR COMMENTS ON THESE 4 WEIRD CASES!!THNKS!!</p>

<p>where did u got all that information from?!!.. and I don’t think harvard wants only good grades… they want something else… I don’t know but they are rejecting perfect scores…</p>

<p>i went through last year’s harvard 2010 forums…i’ve seen many many weird decisions on harvard’s part, but the 4 examples here relay the gist of what i inferred…i just copy pasted them from the forums…</p>

<p>it’s like one post in the forum will make u think that only superhumans can get in,…and then the next post will imply that it’s not 2400/2400, 3 800s, 10 APs, and so on…like they say, its invidualized, and there’s a degree of chance involved </p>

<p>anyways, i’m looking for more views!!.thnks</p>

<p>she got a 980 out of 1600 on the SAT.</p>

<p>if you dont take the SAT IIs, will you still be able to apply? if not then i guess the only choice you have is to take the SAT IIs. If yes, then defintely focus on the SAT Is. </p>

<p>Can you not take the december SAT as a standby, then also take the january one? that way you can do both, SAT IIs in december and SAT I in january, or vice versa as you prefer. i would definitely recommend doing both if you can.</p>

<p>EDIT: nvm i think the december test date has already past?</p>

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<p>Sorry to raise this dead thread, but I got accepted–hehe. And I actually got 2010 (not 2020 as i indicated at the beginning of this thread). Don’t i seem annoyingly eager above to receive approval from strangers?! But anyways, 4 months have passed, and life is great! As for posting now, I’m not trying to be vindicative or anything (as the above 3 posters pointed out, my sat1 WAS low). What I am trying to say is that SATs are truly not everything. Have hope people if you have not passed the 2100 mark on your SATs!</p>

<p>Fo shizzle</p>

<p>congrats AboutTime! :d I did think u had a great curriculum! and yeah SAT scores aren’t everything!!</p>

<p>You had great EC’s, so you really did deserve it a lot, congrats man!</p>

<p>dont listen to all these people putting you down…i think you’ll stand good. besides, you took 5 A levels and got all As…oh and for those who dont know what A level is, its like AP courses, except 3 times harder, similar to the IB.
i agree with this</p>

<p>dont listen to all these people putting you down…i think you’ll stand good. besides, you took 5 A levels and got all As…oh and for those who dont know what A level is, its like AP courses, except 3 times harder, similar to the IB.
i agree with this</p>

<p>dont listen to all these people putting you down…i think you’ll stand good. besides, you took 5 A levels and got all As…oh and for those who dont know what A level is, its like AP courses, except 3 times harder, similar to the IB.
i agree with this</p>

<p>dont listen to all these people putting you down…i think you’ll stand good. besides, you took 5 A levels and got all As…oh and for those who dont know what A level is, its like AP courses, except 3 times harder, similar to the IB.
i agree with this</p>

<p>dont listen to all these people putting you down…i think you’ll stand good. besides, you took 5 A levels and got all As…oh and for those who dont know what A level is, its like AP courses, except 3 times harder, similar to the IB.
i agree with this</p>