<p>Surely NYU has turned into a profit monger. We can just look around and see some of the ridiculous things they have done. Abu Dhabi is clearly a failed joke (which was likely started to bank off of “study abroad” programs), tisch has some ridiculous grad programs that serve no other purpose but to generate a profit. However, Gallatin seems to be the worst of all of these ventures. The employability of a galatin grad is no greater than a SUNY grad. So why pay 55k? The educational experience is a joke. Monster studies? Hip hop culture? I mean seriously people, what is this TTT?</p>
<p>Relax. Are you even a student here? More kids think LSP is the biggest factor to NYU’s “decline” (or inability to climb in rankings) than any other program here.</p>
<p>Cool story, bro.</p>
<p>^^^^
True, but NYU is struggling so hard to prevent Gallatin from turning into Abu Dhabi that they are even advertising Gallatin BA’s on the internet. You don’t see any other similarly ranked school advertising their BA’s.</p>
<p>But I would concede, LSP is definitely =.</p>
<p>Where do you get the idea that Abu Dhabi is a failed project? It’s acceptance rate dictates otherwise.</p>
<p>Could’ve sworn it was due to a lack of an applied science program holding it back as part of U.S News’s criteria, which is in itself a piece of subjective crap anyway. NYU dropped last year due to the fact that it’s pumping money into the formerly bankrupt polytechnic university to refurbish its facilities and build new labs, as well as buy much-needed equipment and chemicals</p>
<p>Yeah, there’s a lot going on internally right now that I imagine could adversely affect our external image or ranking quite a bit. There’s that whole NYU 2031 thing, NYU AD, now NYU Shanghai, NYU Poly, and even the expansion efforts onto Governor’s Island. Couple that will constant news presence for our graduates’ incredible cumulative student debt figure and it’s pretty clear that we’re kind of strugglin’ right now.</p>
<p>Responding against my better judgment, I can only say: have you actually met Gallatin students? They are incredibly smart, driven, accomplished and aware of the creativity, intellectual reach and interdisciplinary approaches required of today’s applicants for graduate schools, professional programs and employment.</p>
<p>That’s stereotypical and inaccurate. You can’t speak for all students of an entire college. Some may be very gifted and intelligent. Other maybe not so much. And of those intelligent ones, not all are always directed in the correct direction. Example - someone majored in “evil”. I have no idea what that degree is good for. But I know I wouldn’t pay $60,000/yr to major in evil. Most student at NYU says Gallatin is the school where you major in kittens and minor in cupcakes, simply because there is no real guideline or set structure as to what must be studied. Therefore, their education is not always as comprehensive as some of other schools. So it’s easy to understand why people think Gallatin is a major waste - it’s $60,000/yr to get (at least to my understanding) a degree that is not as highly regarded as something from CAS/Stern/Tisch, simply for the above mentioned factors. Clearly a person who majors in evil cannot continue on into the business world fairly easily. I would assume some sort of practical graduate study would be necessary for that person. So the question arises why did they spend such exorbitant amounts of money to major in something that is, more likely than not, not directly applicable to everyday functionality? Thus, Gallatin get it’s reputation because it’s not particularly practical.</p>
<p>No one is bashing Gallatin itself, but within the student body there’s a definite running gag where you poke fun at the kids without homework, with seminars where the only work is reading and discussion in class, who are DONE finals a week before you start yours, and who get to create majors for themselves like “Keepin’ it real,” “Sexuality in the modern discourse of video games,” and “Thug life.”</p>
<p>It’s not that it’s a lesser program. It’s less structured, and because of that and how some of its students exploit it to get a great education on paper (4.0 with some exotic concentration), those who leave and find themselves unmarketable end up creating a poor rep for the program.</p>
<p>As a person who actually hires people, I can only tell you that you are incorrect about the qualities that are sought in many fields. I can also tell you that the majors you mention are not ones that are presented by Gallatin students I have met. You might want to check on the law school and med school admit rates, not to mention the jobs people have entered directly. And as Gallatin students take courses at CAS, Stern, Tisch and across the university, they are doing the same work and taking the same finals as everyone else in those courses. I have no interest in arguing with you about this, and do not generalize about every student (though you seem inclined to). But I do want to help those who might be interested in Gallatin make a more informed decision.</p>
<p>For being someone who’s supposed to be “un-argumentative” you certainly are provocative in nature. Gallatin students take classes from CAS/Stern, but not always. Gallatin in many cases offers Gallatin-only classes that students take. Cross-school study is not the rule, it is in fact the exception. As stated above, there are students who do major in ridiculous things and get easy GPA’s. Which to those of us who have to take structured, required classes in things that aren’t kittens and cupcakes, we see it as a bit unfair in more than one aspect, since some students do use it get great GPA’s. And my point about not being hired: A Gallatin student who studies say… Sociological factors of politics, will not get hired over a politics major from NYU. Mainly because NYU politics is mathematically/statistically based which means it’s more practical and applicable than someone who studied politics, but only in the sociology realm. Make sense?</p>